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Soldering Deans - 06.06.2007, 04:50 PM

Is there a specific type of solder used when soldering deans plugs? I had someone at work helping me try to get the wiring soldered to the deans and we had a hard time.

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06.06.2007, 05:14 PM

I just use any type of electronic solder. Just flux and tin the connector and wire first.
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06.06.2007, 05:18 PM

It helps to use something like vice-grips (not too hard though!) to hold the connector so it doesn't move around while you're trying to solder. And use a properly sized soldering iron. A typical 25W iron may have trouble unless you use a larger tip and let it heat a while before attempting to solder.
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06.06.2007, 05:38 PM

I have a 30w that would struggle to solder deans and i swore at the thing everytime i tried. It was a real effort to get enough heat into the tinned wire and the tinned deans plug to melt both together.

I bought a 40w and it made life so much easier i got carried away with my soldering my deans I forget to put heat shrink on! It practically melts them both instantly :)
   
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06.07.2007, 10:05 AM

another thing I always do is plug 2 deans together before you solder so you dont warp the tabs on the connector.
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06.07.2007, 02:28 PM

If you warp the tabs on the connector, you got things way too hot. You need a better soldering iron that gets the job done quicker.
   
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06.07.2007, 04:26 PM

I kind of worded that wrong I meant to say that the plastic on the connector can get hot and the tabs will move and possibly not lign up right when you plug two of them together.
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06.07.2007, 04:31 PM

I understood what you meant. The plastic should not get so hot that the connectors move around. When I solder my deans, the iron is not on the joint for more than a second or two.
   
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06.07.2007, 05:07 PM

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I understood what you meant. The plastic should not get so hot that the connectors move around. When I solder my deans, the iron is not on the joint for more than a second or two.
What type of soldering iron do you have and what type of solder do you use? We finished getting my deans installed today, but it took a while to get everything hot and finished???

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06.07.2007, 06:12 PM

I have the same results as AAngel, only asecond or two. I have a cheapy $6 60w hobbico iron form my LHS. The 80w weller that I've had for 20+ years bit the bucket and I have not bought a new one yet. The 60w hobbico with a flat tip works great for everything except circuit boards.
   
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06.07.2007, 06:18 PM

The real trick is the broad tip. If you can get an iron that will get up to around 700 degrees with a broad tip, it only needs to hold that temp for a few seconds to get the job done.

I use a Metcal MX500 soldering station with a 700* 5mm chisel tip. Like I said, a second or two and I use 12 gauge wires. A good budget soldering station can be had for a bit over $50, if you shop around. I'd check circuitspecialists.com first. If you don't mind spending a bit of money, check into the Hakko stations. IMO, the Metcal is the rolls royce of conventional stations, but it is pricey.
   
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06.07.2007, 06:41 PM

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IMO, the Metcal is the rolls royce of conventional stations, but it is pricey.
Well put! Too much green for me to output on a station though.

I like the diesel trucks of the solding station world. The Wellers, they have them ranging in price from $20'ish for a standard iron to well over $200 for a station type with changable irons. Mine that just died I have had for over 20 years and my grandpa had it for a year or ten before I got it.
   
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06.07.2007, 08:19 PM

The Wellers are very popular for the reasons that you stated. They are inexpensive, dependable, and last forever. I just like the style of the wand that comes with the Hakkos and Metcals better.

Just go by circuitspecialists.com They have a house brand that isn't bad at all. It looks like a Hakko, but I don't think that the power supply is quite on par. It is a good station for the money though. Oh, and I wouldn't waste my money getting the one with the digital readout, the one with the dial is fine. I used to use two of these, before I got my Metcal with the two wands.
   
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06.07.2007, 08:57 PM

I use a soldering gun with a dual output of 150/230W for EVERYTHING. I'm not sure what temperatures this correlates with but it gets the job done, FAST.
   
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