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Neu motor the best? Why? -
10.20.2008, 07:22 PM
Ok I went out and bought a New, Neu. Based entirely on the post by so many. The new Losi set-up looks awsome and is supposedly lightning quick, Novak always is supposed to have good product. Well, mamba is Mamba.
What makes the Neu worth $260 alone while you can get a speed control and motor from really reputable companies for the same price?
I have learned in most cases you get what you pay for. When I buy cheap, I buy the same thing but a better version the next time. What makes Neu the "Gold Standard"?
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10.20.2008, 07:30 PM
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Ok I went out and bought a New, Neu. Based entirely on the post by so many. The new Losi set-up looks awsome and is supposedly lightning quick, Novak always is supposed to have good product. Well, mamba is Mamba.
What makes the Neu worth $260 alone while you can get a speed control and motor from really reputable companies for the same price?
I have learned in most cases you get what you pay for. When I buy cheap, I buy the same thing but a better version the next time. What makes Neu the "Gold Standard"?
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They are the best because they are the most expensive, isn't that how it works?
Neu motors use a very good design and high quality materials. You end up with a more powerful motor that is also more effecient (runs cooler) and is lighter. Plus they are made to better tolerances and should last longer. Generally everything is better, and you pay for it. They are also hand made, which drives the cost up. Plus Steve has to make some money on them!
The MMM/castle neu combo should be the best of both worlds. From what I have heard the castle neu motors work as well as the real neus, and are optimised for car use. They are heavier, but use larger bearings and are sealed.
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10.24.2008, 05:16 PM
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They are the best because they are the most expensive, isn't that how it works?
Neu motors use a very good design and high quality materials. You end up with a more powerful motor that is also more effecient (runs cooler) and is lighter. Plus they are made to better tolerances and should last longer. Generally everything is better, and you pay for it. They are also hand made, which drives the cost up. Plus Steve has to make some money on them!
The MMM/castle neu combo should be the best of both worlds. From what I have heard the castle neu motors work as well as the real neus, and are optimised for car use. They are heavier, but use larger bearings and are sealed.
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+1, once you use a Neu you won't want an el-cheapo motor again. After owning one the lowest I will go is a Medusa (and they're pretty good).
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10.24.2008, 08:49 PM
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+1, once you use a Neu you won't want an el-cheapo motor again. After owning one the lowest I will go is a Medusa (and they're pretty good).
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Ditto. I just ordered a Medusa 36-70-2000Kv and Neu 1515 1Y for my next 2 projects. The medusa will go to my revo conversion and the 1515 will go to either a ST-RR or XT8. Haven't decided on which truck to get   .
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10.25.2008, 12:43 AM
i have both nue motors and the novak hv pro
to compair the two is like compairing a brushed 27 turn motor to a 7700kv brushless motor
the performance of the new is worth the extra money trust me
even a cheep 7xl is more powerfull than the novak motors
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......maybe they want to be more like novak
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I'm telling Patrick you said that!
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10.25.2008, 01:03 AM
i agree....i first had a neu in my 8ight and decided to do a muggy conversion the less expensive way and get a 9xl....the difference in performance/quality is unmatched and only the medusa come the closest....so much for the less expensive way...the 1515 1/y in my 8ight found a permanent home in the muggy and i just bought a 1512 2.5d for the 8ight...its really hard to go back...
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10.25.2008, 01:13 AM
I started with Novak, their HV setups are decent for noobs. Everything bolts up inplace of a EVX-2 and as long as you follow their gearing recomendations it's a sollid set up, even with some good NiMh they will kill the titans! Next up was a Feigao, and although it's more powerful I really think the Novak is higher quality, at least the motor anyways. Feigaos for the most part run hot because they are inefficient and use lower grade materials. The next motor I bought was a Medusa, very high quality and very powerful! I have the 36-50-4800, it's in a crt.5 and pushes that to 40+ on 2s without a problem. If cost is a concern but you want something decent Medusa is a great choice until the cc/neu motors prove themselves. Then came the Tekno Neu to replace my fried 8xl in my E-REVO. To be honest I was gonna go Medusa but there weren't any in stock anywhere at the time, I couldn't even get the 1515 1Y I wanted cause that was out of stock so I settled for the 2.5d (1700kv) to run 4s on. It honestly geared up well and was at about 150* after 20 minutes, not bad compared to 180+* in 5 minutes like the 8xl. Power is incredible and the Tekno Neus are designed for car/truck use, sealed cans, larger bearings, and a flat spot on the shaft. This motor really came to life when I brought it into the sweet spot on 6s, tons of power, insanely fast and temps where very low. I didn't temp it but I could hold my hand on the motor as long as I wanted. I would say that the Neu motors are top notch and there is reason for them to cost so much. If they lowered the prices everyone would want one, they'd have a 6 month waiting list for them or start machine winding them and quality would go down. Would I buy another one? Only if I had to get another motor right away and the Medusa's weren't available and neither where the CC/Neus. $260 is hard to swallow but as the case generally goes, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
I apologize for the long rambling post but it depicts my experience with many motors and compares the Neus to lower motors.
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10.25.2008, 01:43 AM
I have owned pretty much every brushless motor there is...
Neu, plett, hacker, lehner, aveox, medusa, novak, feigao, kontronic, mega, aquacraft, kb, castle, orion, traxxas, ammo, and many more that I cannot remember.
Plett are the nicest, built quality is great, and they perform very well. Neu is just as good, design appears to be identical. Plus they are USA made and their service is exceptional. Aveox are great too, basically identical to neu motors. I have a feeling the neu is a little better, so i place aveox and medusa at the same level.
Honestly with the introduction of the medusa 70mm motors, there is no need to buy anything else. You cannot beat the price, maybe with the castle/neu motors, but the kv choice is limited (I am sure they will offer more choices). i would recomment a MMM/castleneu combo to anyone to run 4s, or a lower kv medusa 70mm with the mmm for 6s.
Hacker make great motors, the c50 series are on par with lehner motors. They are both very epensive, but can be found used cheap. Both are 2 pole, so will work with cheaper escs that may have issues starting 4 pole motors. I would only buy these used, and you will want motor history with any used motor purchase. Both of these motors produce good power and run effeciently, not quite as good as a neu. But better than the medusa.
I do not have enough runtime on the mega motors to offer any insight. I will say that feigaos are a waste of money given that a 60mm medusa will perform as well as an xl and only cost avout 30-40 bucks more.
Novak motors are well made, but are a bit small, so the hv are best left to a buggy or lower geared Mt. Still a good choice if you are novak loyal, the new hv esc is a big jump from the old esc.
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10.25.2008, 02:07 AM
Neus are best casue the Pimp said so!
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10.25.2008, 02:20 AM
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Neus are best casue the Pimp said so!
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I can see Neu using that in their marketing program...
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I see why theyre way up there !!!!! -
10.29.2008, 11:56 PM
I ran my truck on the track at Revelation Raceway in Montclair, CA. MAN!!!!!!! Never thought i would say this but what was I thinking on wasting my time on nitro? The motor was plenty fast on 4S I could hold the motor in hand, the MMM SC Was cool to the touch. By the way 1515/1Y on 13/48 gearing. No one on the track knew what a NEU was. The only thing they knew was the Losi motor. I am totally happy with The NEU and electric!
I still have to soften the braking though running the straight pinion. It was set at 25% but still nose dived with any brake input. Maybe use more motor drag???? Less brake tapping???? 25% was the lowest setting too.
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10.30.2008, 12:02 AM
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I ran my truck on the track at Revelation Raceway in Montclair, CA. MAN!!!!!!! Never thought i would say this but what was I thinking on wasting my time on nitro? The motor was plenty fast on 4S I could hold the motor in hand, the MMM SC Was cool to the touch. By the way 1515/1Y on 13/48 gearing. No one on the track knew what a NEU was. The only thing they knew was the Losi motor. I am totally happy with The NEU and electric!
I still have to soften the braking though running the straight pinion. It was set at 25% but still nose dived with any brake input. Maybe use more motor drag???? Less brake tapping???? 25% was the lowest setting too.
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Neu motors definitely rock!
Have you tinkered with the brake curves on your PC or messed with throttle settings on your remote? Part of it may be getting used to how powerful electric brakes are, but these motors really have a lot of stopping power to get used to.
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10.30.2008, 12:06 AM
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Part of it may be getting used to how powerful electric brakes are
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That's for darn sure. The first time I hit the brakes hard in my revo it endoed on to the lid and slid into a parked car (the tire fortunately). time to dial them brakes back.
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10.30.2008, 05:37 AM
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Ok I went out and bought a New, Neu. Based entirely on the post by so many. The new Losi set-up looks awsome and is supposedly lightning quick, Novak always is supposed to have good product. Well, mamba is Mamba.
What makes the Neu worth $260 alone while you can get a speed control and motor from really reputable companies for the same price?
I have learned in most cases you get what you pay for. When I buy cheap, I buy the same thing but a better version the next time. What makes Neu the "Gold Standard"?
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I agree with all above comments, you Will not be disappointed with the neu. I have a 1515/2.5d and it feels like 5 times the motor the 9xl (previus setup) ever would be, the quality is what you pay for. I have had one for over a year and no failures what so ever, top shelf quality and built in America. I'll never buy another motor, If lehners were available in the U.S., I might reconsider
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