other esc's besides cc

[cham]

I love my CC mmmv3 so far but I keep askiing myself if they are the end all be all of of esc's. I have a neu 1521 coming in the mail soon and I wonder if I can pump more than 6s through this beast? Should I go for the new CC XL esc and try 8s on this beast? or are there other esc options out there aside from tekin and cc that is worth the money? I know cc has great customer support and all but are they the end all be all of HV escs for rc trucks and cars? whats your opinion?

[_paralyzed_]

Yep. American made, trustworthy, great customer support. CC can't be beat. Get the XL if you want to run more than 6s.

[DrKnow65]

And have integrated data logging.

[lincpimp]

The 1521 1y you have coming will certainly handle 8s. Now do you really need 8s...

I ran the other in both my muggy and my lst. Both on 6s. Plenty of power, both geared for 45mph and always bashed on mixed surface, street, grass and dirt. Did just fine.

Me, I am having trouble with the xl only handling 8s. It is really designed for the larger scale stuff, to be used with the 2028. We need a good 10s esc with motor brakes to come from CC. Maybe the same overall output capability as the MMM, but 10s capable with brakes. That would open up alot of opportunities. People are starting to see just how great HV really is. And to think just a few years ago 6s was "too much" and "why did anyone want that"... Once I went past 4s in a heavy vehicle ther was no turning back. Now I run 4s in 10th scale and on road... LV sucks.

[Nixpus]

Euro stuff:

http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?cat=...llers-x-series

http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/

Higher voltage and data logging if you want... not cheap though!!

HK stuff:

http://okhobby.com/product.php?id_product=1136

10s, no BEC, no data logging, pretty cheap.

No idea how any of it perform

[JERRY2KONE]

Its really all about location just like real estate. If you are in the USA, then CC or Tekin would seem to be your best bet, because shipping and warranty service will cost you very little if anything. If you are in Europe then Schulz or MGM seem to be the top dogs, because you would be dealing with a somewhat local entity. Other than HK I am not sure what Asia has to offer. All of them have their Pro's & Con's about them so location would seem to be the deciding factor.

Originally Posted by lincpimp

The 1521 1y you have coming will certainly handle 8s. Now do you really need 8s...

I ran the other in both my muggy and my lst. Both on 6s. Plenty of power, both geared for 45mph and always bashed on mixed surface, street, grass and dirt. Did just fine.

Me, I am having trouble with the xl only handling 8s. It is really designed for the larger scale stuff, to be used with the 2028. We need a good 10s esc with motor brakes to come from CC. Maybe the same overall output capability as the MMM, but 10s capable with brakes. That would open up alot of opportunities. People are starting to see just how great HV really is. And to think just a few years ago 6s was "too much" and "why did anyone want that"... Once I went past 4s in a heavy vehicle ther was no turning back. Now I run 4s in 10th scale and on road... LV sucks.

I agree. 8S? What's that about? It's sort of pointless, ESPECIALLY at that price. I expected them to release 10s at that price, but I'm guessing it will be twice as expensive.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky

I agree. 8S? What's that about? It's sort of pointless, ESPECIALLY at that price. I expected them to release 10s at that price, but I'm guessing it will be twice as expensive.

I see the xl setup with the 2028 motor as a dedicated 5th scale setup. But I do also agree that 10s would be better. Weight is not a huge consideration for 5th scale and having 2 more cells, even 5000mah 40c cells, would not add much to a 20+ lb truck.

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I see the xl setup with the 2028 motor as a dedicated 5th scale setup. But I do also agree that 10s would be better. Weight is not a huge consideration for 5th scale and having 2 more cells, even 5000mah 40c cells, would not add much to a 20+ lb truck.

Totally. I can see that 1/5th scale owners are all over this, since there aren't that many ESCS that can handle all that weight with ease. But I wonder why they didn't opt to go higher on the voltage. Do the HV components cost insanely much more? Must be the code, or something, since air and sea HV escs are relatively cheap.

Would it really be that hard to get a car-dedicated ICE HV @ 10S, even for 1/8 cars, at a reasonable price like 250-300$?

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky

Totally. I can see that 1/5th scale owners are all over this, since there aren't that many ESCS that can handle all that weight with ease. But I wonder why they didn't opt to go higher on the voltage. Do the HV components cost insanely much more? Must be the code, or something, since air and sea HV escs are relatively cheap.

Would it really be that hard to get a car-dedicated ICE HV @ 10S, even for 1/8 cars, at a reasonable price like 250-300$?

Pretty sure it has something to do with motor braking, causes alot of regen (or whatever) and the internals need to be able to handle that.

Heres an Idea (capitalized it cause it is that good):

Take the largest amp capable air esc, and put car software on it. Forward only, no brakes, and make it opto. That way it should not be able to be overloaded, and has to be used with mech brakes. And make it car radio freindly.

Maybe i am asking for too much? Not well versed in esc design!

[snellemin]

The 8s from Castle was a let down for me. But isn't it 10s capable with mechanical brakes?
If Lutach was able to aquire 10s capable esc's for a reasonable price, why can't Castle do the same?? And his had motor brakes. Omit the datalogger and built bec.

The build in datalogging is cool, but I opted to get the 50hz eagletree logger with the 10hz gps receiver instead. That way I can use it with all my vehicles. The telemetry on the MGM is a pretty cool option too. So hard to keep up with RC technology these days.

[BrianG]

Speaking of HV, does anyone know if the MMXL can be run on higher than 8s if the motor brakes are disabled? I'm wondering if the ESC voltage was underrated to compensate for the brake spikes...

[Shonen]

Speaking of HV, does anyone know if the MMXL can be run on higher than 8s if the motor brakes are disabled? I'm wondering if the ESC voltage was underrated to compensate for the brake spikes...

I'm not sure, I haven't tried but I believe Castle had a feature on 1.29b that flashes an LED if you overvolt a Mamba ESC. I'm not sure if this disables it from driving, but Mamba XL firmware was added in 1.27b so if it becomes a problem there is a workaround.

Originally Posted by snellemin

The 8s from Castle was a let down for me. But isn't it 10s capable with mechanical brakes?
If Lutach was able to aquire 10s capable esc's for a reasonable price, why can't Castle do the same?? And his had motor brakes. Omit the datalogger and built bec.

Where did Lutach get them? And how much did they cost?

[JERRY2KONE]

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky

Where did Lutach get them? And how much did they cost?

Lutach was working with someone in China who manufactured them specifically for him. He went through some R&D timing, and ended up with a pretty nice ESC for $250-$300 range that was 10S capable.