what do you think of this 1/8 ?

[BL_RV0]

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[Modding_out]

I did some more research an I have come to a major question. what suspension design is better? Pillow ball or king pin and c hub.

In my research I somehow came to the conclusion that PBS was a inferior design in comparison to CHS. But this is not the case, in the past it was the follow through design that made PBS inferior, ( as demonstrated in the pic above) not the concept. Nowadays, you see a more refined form of this suspension. In it's current form it is similar in all respects to the traxxas pbs which has proven it self durable since 1999.

On the other hand many are plagued with popping pillow balls which is a inherit weak spot in the concept. I am not aware of the Hpi Savage's CHS to have such inherit weak spots; why? because CHS is a far more hardy design in comparison.

Another factor to consider though, is that PBS uses less parts and is lighter than CHS. But even with it's weight benefits and ease of use you don't see Xray,Losi, AE or Kyosho with this suspension? So that alone leads me to believe that PBS is not up to the challenge, yet OFNA make's you pay more for this ''inferior'' design?

So the question still remains, which system rises Superior above it's competitor.......

Originally Posted by Modding_out

But even with it's weight benefits and ease of use you don't see Xray,Losi, AE or Kyosho with this suspension? So that alone leads me to believe that PBS is not up to the challenge, yet OFNA make's you pay more for this ''inferior'' design?

Mugens are PBS as well. I'm not certain it's "inferior" The design of the mugen carriers makes popping a ball out rather hard. It has alot of material around the ball and a thin groove just big enough to allow suspension travel that the screw end of the ball goes through.