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_paralyzed_ · 04.05.2012, 03:52 AM

From the jive manual:

7.1 Auto-Programming-Mode APM (Mode 1) 19
7.2 Glider-Mode (Mode 2) 19
7.3 Motor-Plane/ Boat-Mode (Mode 3) 19
7.4 Heli-Mode (Mode 4) 19
7.5 Competition-Mode (Mode 5) 20
7.6 Car-Mode Race: one direction, proportional brake (Mode 6) 20
7.7 Reverse Motor Rotation (Mode 7) 20
7.8 F3A Motor Plane Mode (Mode 8) 20
7.9 LiPo Mode (Mode 9) 20
7.10 KSA-Mode (Mode 10) 20
7.11 Heli Mode with constant RPM control

The car mode has one direction, jive controllers do not have reverse.

IrishChamp · 04.05.2012, 05:20 AM

Hmmm, I must be loosing it. I destinctly remember looking at the manual and under mode 6 instructions there was the race mode and then a couple other
sub options, one of them being forward/reverse with proportional braking.
I wonder if there is a newer or older manual I looked at originally??

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

From the jive manual:

7.1 Auto-Programming-Mode APM (Mode 1) 19
7.2 Glider-Mode (Mode 2) 19
7.3 Motor-Plane/ Boat-Mode (Mode 3) 19
7.4 Heli-Mode (Mode 4) 19
7.5 Competition-Mode (Mode 5) 20
7.6 Car-Mode Race: one direction, proportional brake (Mode 6) 20
7.7 Reverse Motor Rotation (Mode 7) 20
7.8 F3A Motor Plane Mode (Mode 8) 20
7.9 LiPo Mode (Mode 9) 20
7.10 KSA-Mode (Mode 10) 20
7.11 Heli Mode with constant RPM control

The car mode has one direction, jive controllers do not have reverse.

lutach · 04.05.2012, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishChamp

Hmmm, I must be loosing it. I destinctly remember looking at the manual and under mode 6 instructions there was the race mode and then a couple other
sub options, one of them being forward/reverse with proportional braking.
I wonder if there is a newer or older manual I looked at originally??

The other option is to reverse the motor's rotation. The Jazz ESCs is the one that has the option for for/rev w/prop. braking.

_paralyzed_ · 04.05.2012, 07:52 AM

Woops I was wrong about the schulze, I didn't realize it was an "L" model. For $220.00 that's looking like a good option.

IrishChamp · 04.05.2012, 03:08 PM

Maybe I was looking at the Jazz manual.

Do you think the 40.100 Schilz Furure L would be adequate for my build? 100 amps continuous would be cutting it close but if it has headroom like the kontronik esc's it might be enough.

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Originally Posted by lutach

The other option is to reverse the motor's rotation. The Jazz ESCs is the one that has the option for for/rev w/prop. braking.

lutach · 04.05.2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishChamp

Maybe I was looking at the Jazz manual.

Do you think the 40.100 Schilz Furure L would be adequate for my build? 100 amps continuous would be cutting it close but if it has headroom like the kontronik esc's it might be enough.

I've heard that the older 40.160 would regularly burst to over 300A on big airplanes. Mine came close to 200A when I used it with my Neu 1521/1Y a couple of times on 10S which I don't recommend. I really don't know how the new ESCs are built and if they have the same capabilities of the older units. If you keep your speed bellow 40mph (without tire ballooning), you might be able to keep you burst AMPs to about 100A and you could average around 20-30A (Maybe lower). At the moment, I take any ESC rating as the burst AMP rating which occurs mostly on hard accelerations. If I were you, I would contact Schulze first and ask them if the 40.100 would be enough.

IrishChamp · 04.05.2012, 06:34 PM

I emailed Schulz. I'll report back what they say.

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Originally Posted by lutach

I've heard that the older 40.160 would regularly burst to over 300A on big airplanes. Mine came close to 200A when I used it with my Neu 1521/1Y a couple of times on 10S which I don't recommend. I really don't know how the new ESCs are built and if they have the same capabilities of the older units. If you keep your speed bellow 40mph (without tire ballooning), you might be able to keep you burst AMPs to about 100A and you could average around 20-30A (Maybe lower). At the moment, I take any ESC rating as the burst AMP rating which occurs mostly on hard accelerations. If I were you, I would contact Schulze first and ask them if the 40.100 would be enough.

lutach · 04.05.2012, 05:28 AM

The Schulze L ESC has a car mode and no pistix required. I had the old 40.160 and it was a beast. Not sure how the new ones are built, but the older ones had what it seemed to be a thick copper heat sink in between the PCB. The Schulze L has a larger footprint compared to the Jive. The Jive has a car mode, but I don't think it has reverse. The Schulze L, XL and XXL are all OPTO and you'll need an RX pack or external BEC. Schulze was going to release the M series which was going to have a BEC for their HV units, but they will not be available this year. That cheap Jive 120HV in the other forum is looking good, too bad my 10S ESC is still going strong

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IrishChamp · 04.05.2012, 06:55 PM

Btw, where's this cheap jive 120 you speak of? :)

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Originally Posted by lutach

The Schulze L ESC has a car mode and no pistix required. I had the old 40.160 and it was a beast. Not sure how the new ones are built, but the older ones had what it seemed to be a thick copper heat sink in between the PCB. The Schulze L has a larger footprint compared to the Jive. The Jive has a car mode, but I don't think it has reverse. The Schulze L, XL and XXL are all OPTO and you'll need an RX pack or external BEC. Schulze was going to release the M series which was going to have a BEC for their HV units, but they will not be available this year. That cheap Jive 120HV in the other forum is looking good, too bad my 10S ESC is still going strong

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lutach · 04.06.2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IrishChamp

Btw, where's this cheap jive 120 you speak of? :)

At the Heli forum.

IrishChamp · 04.21.2012, 12:11 AM

I've made a little progress, it's slow going though right now. My busy season is coming up and the new baby is keeping me busy! :)

Made some shock mounts:

Rear bulkhead and chassis support plates:

Finally bought an esc as well, jive 120hv

IrishChamp · 04.22.2012, 05:40 PM

What are some opinions on using one of these for the motor? Nice and secure it seems. It also looks like the rcm universal diff/motor mount is back in stock.
Anyone know if the rcm mount will accept m4 motor screws and the 1527 motor?
http://southriverrcboats.com/shop/ar...n.html?pse=apq

lutach · 04.23.2012, 03:02 PM

Can't wait to see your truck in action.

I have 2 motor mounts that I bought that is somewhat like the one in the link, but I think the RC-Monster center mount might be a better option. Make a thread here (http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) regarding your questions for the center motor mount and I'm sure that Mike will help you make your truck a solid machine.

IrishChamp · 04.23.2012, 05:09 PM

Posted, thanks Lutach!

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Originally Posted by lutach

Can't wait to see your truck in action.

I have 2 motor mounts that I bought that is somewhat like the one in the link, but I think the RC-Monster center mount might be a better option. Make a thread here (http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) regarding your questions for the center motor mount and I'm sure that Mike will help you make your truck a solid machine.

IrishChamp · 04.28.2012, 01:00 PM

Just got a tracking #, motor mount is on its way!!