Need info for 80mph brushless truggy...

[Over_revO]

I like overpowered truck, its not to show off, really.... :)

I respect that you think its useless, but i will not invest in brushless (batteries, charger, esc, motor etc..) if i cant do anything better than my nitro.

I could run my nitro revo at 66 all day long with wheelies, no overheating.

Thats why i want a good step higher. 70 isnt fast for me.
A good setup with a truggy will handle good at 70.

Can a Neu 1515 1y with the MMM on 6S handle 65mph all day with bashing without overheating?

That would really be the minimum requirement for me...

:)

[_paralyzed_]

I'd go atleast a 1521 because that speed you want is geared pretty high.

Did you gps or radar your revo? 66mph all day long would take a serious nitro motor, and usually at those speeds second gear melts. That's with an o.s. .28, so you must have had some serious motor.

Usually brushless rigs are geared for one thing. Bashing, racing, or speed runs. I suggest carrying two pinions and gearing up for speed runs and gearing down for bashing. Not doing that is why your buddy is overheating.

[Over_revO]

Yes i radared it, with 2 different radar, i had a pretty high gearing, the engine was a Picco .28 modified by ABmods, drag mod....

It produce more power than a stock OS28. But i also have modified OS 28.

For sure i could not hold it at 66mph for an entire tank lol it would overheat, but i could do what i am looking for in the brushless, its just i want a brushless that can do better

thats why i targeted 80, i can live with 70, may be 65, but 60mph is not worthing it for me , we had a truggy geared for 55mph and it was pulling wheelies with a modified OS28.


I just thought you could have a wider range of power with the brushless, seeing how strong the Neu 1515 1.5d was in my friend's revo even geared for 65-70, it could flip from a standing still, but overheated....

Thats what i cant get over, a nitro will just ,not pull it and then overheat, the electric will pull it and overheat... :)

Like i said i always like to get more power than i need, its my fun.

Thx for all the tips, i will think about it and may still go brushless.

Mike :)

[_paralyzed_]

you can do it. 1521, hv110, pistix and 12s. The only thing is the cc hv110 has no brakes and makes mechanical brakes necessary. An MGM has brakes.

You friends revo was just pushing the limits geared that high.

A 1521 will handle what you want no problem, for extra insurance step up to a 1527.

Your english is fine! You speak much better than many stupid americans.

[Over_revO]

Thx man! appreciated!

:)

[zeropointbug]

Absolutely no offense to you, this is just my opinion.....

COMPLETELY USELESS, RETARDED, BORING, AND EXPENSIVE

again, just my opinion.

and ya, your lower speed drive ability is going to be in the toilet; you would need large battery for sure.

[Over_revO]

What some of you may dont understand is, i posted here to know if its possible, if it will overheat or not, its not like im trying to tell you its possible, im here to know if it is, so telling me you would not like the setup ....is useless...

If you guys think it would not work, and overheat, i will not do it, simple as that...

:)

[DwightSchrute]

i don't get it. why are you guys giving this guy so much guff?

a few years ago, i heard the same BS when people were talking about dropping 6S in their e-maxxs. it can't be done. it's too fast. it's useless. blah blah blah......i think it was the laziness of people not having the technology handed to them on a platter that's making them so against it.

because when the MMM came out, you saw tons of 70+mph trucks with tons of people saying how great it was. the bashers were all but hushed.

can it be done? hell yeah it can be done. I've seen ofna buggies over 100mph with the same method. get the pistix and the hv-110 and drop some cash on some 30-40C lipos and you'll be golden.

if i'm not mistaken, Nic Case went 161mph with that same ESC. it'll provide the means for sure. the 1527 or 1521 will provide the power. just make sure you keep in mid you might need a custom motor mount because the mounting holes are larger spaced apart. Rc-monster Mike might be able to fabricate one for you if you ask him. (he's also the owner of the site)

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/products.php?cat=42

Also, those motors usually require an 8MM bore pinion. however, offshore electronics rc can special order them with 5mm shafts. it could take several weeks to order though...they also carry the pistix.

http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...rod=msw-pistix



instead of saying how retarted it is, encourage the guy...geez ....jzmaxx did over 80 with one of the heaviest MT that's available. an 80mph truggy is definately do-able running cool.
good luck Over_revO

[zeropointbug]

hey hey hey, I never said he shouldn't do it.... I said that was my opinion.

No one said 6s was ever too fast btw, the only reason people said that, is because everyone used 2000Kv plus Fiegao motors... which obviously, is too fast and hot for those motors.

"instead of saying how retarted it is, encourage the guy...geez ....jzmaxx did over 80 with one of the heaviest MT that's available. an 80mph truggy is definately do-able running cool."

Okay, you're right.... good luck man on getting to 80mph, hope you don't crash at those speeds and destroy all the expensive equipment in the truck.


Alright, instead of using different controllers, what about using twin motor system? Maybe dual MMM running 1512 Neu motors? Or maybe a better option, dual MMM running T8 motors? Like 6s on the Truggy 1550Kv model? That way, it's not overpowered, still has more than enough power to get to 80mph with wheelies, and will run relatively cool. Just another option.

[nitrostarter]

I tried a couple speeds runs with my CRT truggy yesterday. 6s 2200 geared 25/48 with buggy ratio diffs, taped holeshots tires. The best I got was 59.6mph without the front in flying high. Its hard to keep those front wheels down.


Good luck man! Make sure you get some video!

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by nitrostarter

I tried a couple speeds runs with my CRT truggy yesterday. 6s 2200 geared 25/48 with buggy ratio diffs, taped holeshots tires. The best I got was 59.6mph without the front in flying high. Its hard to keep those front wheels down.


Good luck man! Make sure you get some video!

Going fast is fun. Us bashers need challenges, cause we do not have that "better driver" to beat on the track. I personally think a MM/2200 combo has enough ass to do 80, but maybe only a pass or 2 before the current draw will start causing problems. A 1527 will be the best bet, on 10-12s. That will stay cool, but you will need some good lipos to get the job done. Battery weight will be an issue, maybe something like the new thunderpower 40c packs, they are lower mah, but can handle high current demands.

I plan to do a stupid powerful 2 speed on road car myself. 1521 1y on 6s , geared to the moon, with 9000 30c worth of lipo. I have a feeling the fan on the MMM will stay on for a while...!!!

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by zeropointbug

hey hey hey, I never said he shouldn't do it.... I said that was my opinion.

No one said 6s was ever too fast btw, the only reason people said that, is because everyone used 2000Kv plus Fiegao motors... which obviously, is too fast and hot for those motors.

"instead of saying how retarted it is, encourage the guy...geez ....jzmaxx did over 80 with one of the heaviest MT that's available. an 80mph truggy is definately do-able running cool."

Okay, you're right.... good luck man on getting to 80mph, hope you don't crash at those speeds and destroy all the expensive equipment in the truck.

Alright, instead of using different controllers, what about using twin motor system? Maybe dual MMM running 1512 Neu motors? Or maybe a better option, dual MMM running T8 motors? Like 6s on the Truggy 1550Kv model? That way, it's not overpowered, still has more than enough power to get to 80mph with wheelies, and will run relatively cool. Just another option.

i tried the dual MMM before, and i tore up the transmission badly in about 30 feet with the neus. it just had soooo much torque...even with 100% punch control.

twin feigaos had better results but i could never get it up to full speed. it was simply too much power for me.

here's a pic:



however, i agree with you. if i could have gotten it to work, i'm confident it had the power to do atleast 80.

[lincpimp]

I really do not see the issue with making trucks go fast. Forward weight distribution, low stance, very limited suspension (no droop) and a front wing should do the trick.

Something like the erevo body to make it more aerodynamic. At those speeds tire setup will be more critical than anything else.

Setting alot of neg expo on the radio will help with startup issues, and being careful with the throttle during the run as well.

Not saying that this would be anything other than a straight line vehicle and most likely good for a handful of passes at a time.

[nitrostarter]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Not saying that this would anything other than a straight line vehicle and most likely good for a handful of passes at a time.

Do you need me to proof-read your posts before you post them? I can do this for a small fee...

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by nitrostarter

Do you need me to proof-read your posts before you post them? I can do this for a small fee...

Get your own lines bucko...