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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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08.25.2007, 06:32 PM
Both Castle and Tekin jumped the gun and screwed up. I went with Quark on my heavy trucks because i needed an esc NOW, not when they decided i needed it.
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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08.25.2007, 06:37 PM
I hope Tekin lowers the price on their Brushless controllers just to say, "We messed up here is a good discount".
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RC-Monster Titanium
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08.25.2007, 09:29 PM
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Both Castle and Tekin jumped the gun and screwed up. I went with Quark on my heavy trucks because i needed an esc NOW, not when they decided i needed it.
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same here thats why I went with a quark and now an mgm16018 for my truggy. by the time these come out I will not need them anymore.
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08.26.2007, 02:46 PM
Of course my idea of soon is probably not the same as theirs....
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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08.27.2007, 01:05 PM
Isn't there a law against false advertisement?
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RC-Monster Admin
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08.27.2007, 01:17 PM
Kinda makes you wonder why BOTH Tekin and the MMM seem to be following the same release schedule (or lack thereof)? IIRC, there was some mention of both ESCs being based on the same thing...
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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08.27.2007, 01:30 PM
Have you guys seen the prices for the Tekin Brushless on Horizon? Tekin keeps saying they are not the same as CC, but who era they trying to fool. They just put them inside a plastic case.
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08.27.2007, 01:34 PM
TBH, it would make sense to outsource the hardware portion to a vendor like castle and then create their own software for how they want theirs to perform.
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RC-Monster Titanium
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08.31.2007, 09:00 AM
http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=179379
looks like they might be making some progress after all. of course they dont actually show you the esc and motor, but they do have 8th scale with a brushless conversion. they say its running the neu well.
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08.31.2007, 09:23 AM
Tekin has for sure been working on the MT controller - I have helped them convert the 8T truggy and Dan set them up with the 8B conversion. I have set their emaxx up with some durability parts as well for testing.
Tekin is not Castle, either. At one point, they used the same motor mfg for their mini systems, but the controllers are indeed their own - motors come from many sources and many different companies use the same sources. Likewise, most controllers use similar components - of course they all need the same or similar items/components, but Tekin controllers are NOT made by Castle as others have suggested.
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08.31.2007, 10:13 AM
Mike, good to hear that they had your help in setting up the truggy. Also it appears that Dan is also starting to get a pretty good following at rctech, and also does very nice work.
Kyosho SC, tekin rs, D3 17.5
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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08.31.2007, 11:01 AM
How many people will actually buy a Tekin R1MT after this long wait. If the price of the R1 that are posted in Tower and Horizon are true, just imagine how much the R1MT will be. It is also strange that Tekin came out with a mini system just like CC's and they anonced the MT right about the same time as the MMM. Like I said in the MMM thread, I know the manufacturer that will be making the Much More BL ESC and I think that CC and Tekin basically uses the same source (factory) to make their products, but Tekin might be more technical about things since they have an awesome reputation to keep up with their race winning Brushed ESC.
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08.31.2007, 12:09 PM
Someone just informed me of this discussion and I thought I would chime in.
The Brushless electric set ups we are putting in our 1/8th scales and Trucks are all in uncharted territory. We are experiencing amp draw and drive train pressures in race and bash conditions that have never been experienced before.
I regularly talk with Jim Cambell about the conditions we are seeing and things we are experiencing on the track in race conditions. I am sure Mike has also. I also have talked with NOVAK and CC.
These electronics especially with the Neu motors and 4S batteries have never seen this type of abuse. The run times with the Lipos are incredible. The Amp draw of the system is more then most telemetry systems will handle.
And I see from reading this that some want even more!! They want electronics that handle 5S or 6S packs. That power will be almost unuseable except for all out high speed runs.
With my EH7 with a Neu 1512 1.5D/F and a 6000 4S set up. I can easily run for 15 min in race conditions. I see motor temps in the 170's and ESC temps at about 150. Even the wires and connectors have to be beefed up to handle the loads.
It is an exciting time. We are all impatient... every time I talk or email a manufacturer, the first thing I tell them is HURRY UP!!!
If you already have a set up running... share what you are experiencing. The good and the bad. I know the manufactures are reading all these discussions and hopefully using some of the info in their development and fellow racers will benefit from it too.
Dan
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08.31.2007, 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ1978
Someone just informed me of this discussion and I thought I would chime in.
The Brushless electric set ups we are putting in our 1/8th scales and Trucks are all in uncharted territory. We are experiencing amp draw and drive train pressures in race and bash conditions that have never been experienced before.
I regularly talk with Jim Cambell about the conditions we are seeing and things we are experiencing on the track in race conditions. I am sure Mike has also. I also have talked with NOVAK and CC.
These electronics especially with the Neu motors and 4S batteries have never seen this type of abuse. The run times with the Lipos are incredible. The Amp draw of the system is more then most telemetry systems will handle.
And I see from reading this that some want even more!! They want electronics that handle 5S or 6S packs. That power will be almost unuseable except for all out high speed runs.
With my EH7 with a Neu 1512 1.5D/F and a 6000 4S set up. I can easily run for 15 min in race conditions. I see motor temps in the 170's and ESC temps at about 150. Even the wires and connectors have to be beefed up to handle the loads.
It is an exciting time. We are all impatient... every time I talk or email a manufacturer, the first thing I tell them is HURRY UP!!!
If you already have a set up running... share what you are experiencing. The good and the bad. I know the manufactures are reading all these discussions and hopefully using some of the info in their development and fellow racers will benefit from it too.
Dan
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Well said - this is a great time for the brushless/lipo industry! I bet we'll continue seeing some incredible breakthroughs over the next few years. It's awesome!
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08.31.2007, 12:17 PM
Thank you,
I think it is a great time for the RC Industry. I am having more fun now than I have had in years!!! I am busier than I have ever been between my full time job and my RC Business and loving every minute of it!!!
I can't wait to see what happens at my track this winter. I run Washtenaw RC Raceway in Ann Arbor, MI. Last season we averaged 210 entries a race with about 10 or 12 different designs of Brushless 1/8th scales. This year I excpect that to double or even triple.
It is very exciting to be on the starting edge of the next big thing in RC.
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