So what's with UE?

[ssspconcepts]

Originally Posted by Procharged5.0

Since the UE parts are essentially "Intellectual Property" IE: Engineering Designs, R&D, CNC Machine Programs and not something with an established market value (or something tangible like actual product or 7075 bar stock) it's pretty hard to say. My wife values businesses for a living so I could ask her for her professional "guesstimate" on this but without her researching into the value of proprietary designs or info from Robin it might be pretty tough to get a good answer to that question.

As far as reproducing them goes, that would be less of an issue. Locating a contract machine shop with appropriate machining & production capabilities would be no big deal (I have connections with Rousch Racing for example. They have massive high performance 5-Axis machining centers). Having the finances to contract them for building the product, or investing in a great enough number of parts to make the cost-per-unit value acceptable is another story.

Its a shame to let this product line "die." Seems like there are enough folks here to keep it going...

[ClodMaxx]

Originally Posted by ssspconcepts

Seems like there are enough folks here to keep it going...

you would think. try checking out the UE forums - guys there are practically screaming for a new production run of high impact arms, racerX suspension, CVDs... just about everything that is out of stock. apparently it's all falling on deaf ears.

[ssspconcepts]

Originally Posted by ClodMaxx

you would think. try checking out the UE forums - guys there are practically screaming for a new production run of high impact arms, racerX suspension, CVDs... just about everything that is out of stock. apparently it's all falling on deaf ears.

I'm surprised someone hasn't approached him to buy the designs...I'd do it if I thought I could just break even...but in all honesty it's outside my area of specialization.

[ClodMaxx]

some may have approached him... who knows. i've never spoken to robin or know what he's like, but it seems he has a lot of pride in his products - who wouldn't. if money isn't an issue, which it most likely isn't, i would put money on the fact that he'll plan to be buried with the plans to his designs... lol.

but even if you could get your hands on designs for a few of the more popular parts that are more rare... high impact arms for sure, VBS, and racerX...maybe even the lightning or razerback... you'd most likely have a lot of orders. you could do a prototype of each to sell pre-orders. then again, the expense of buying designs and contracting a very high quality machine shop to execute those designs won't guarantee the pre-orders. and if there weren't enough orders to sustain the additional cost, you'd be out a lot of money.

from a buyer/market perspective, people may also be leery to buy a 'second generation' product. robin and/or sam inspected every part after the polishing and before it was sold. sam has even said he test fits all the driveshafts. it could turn out like the book collecting world: the first edition, first printings of rare books are much, much more valuable than 2nd editions... even though physically they're the same product.

All things end.

Anyone who buyes anything UE for the maxx is making beds in a burning house. Luckely I dont own any of the UE stuff and now never will. It all belongs on flee bay. Ue emailed me saying they were just out of stock on the cvd's but we know better. The game has passed them by.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by coolrunnings

Anyone who buyes anything UE for the maxx is making beds in a burning house. Luckely I dont own any of the UE stuff and now never will. It all belongs on flee bay. Ue emailed me saying they were just out of stock on the cvd's but we know better. The game has passed them by.

... i believe that´s true.

I don´t know what has happened. I started my rc hobby with unlimited products and own 3 supermaxxes. i cannot drive them as hard as i want in the furure because i will not get the spare parts i will need for rebuilding.

that makes me... a little bit angry.

letting the whole supermaxx story run out without any notification or explanation to the customers, the persons who made unlimited engineering alive for years.

that´s not the fine way!

i don´t like that. really not.

supermaxx parts were first class products and had a first class price - some words of explanation to alle the ue customers would be fair.

that´s my opinion.

marc.

p.s.: there are two options for me: put the supermaxxes on the shelf and don´t drive them anymore or rip them apart and sell the stuff on ebay. i never wanted to put my rc cars on the shelf and let them die in dust. i wanted to drive them and use them to have fun... so i think i will drive them the next summer until i will not have the needed spare parts for rebulding after a crash and then rip the cars apart and sell the parts.

what a unhappy ending!

[lincpimp]

I agree that UE should have notified their customers about this, however there is probably a lot less demand than when the maxx trucks were new. There are many newer vehicles that out sell the maxx now, the revo being one of them. Truggies have become much more popular to race, thus most of the maxxes sold are to regular guys who do not drive them that hard. Alot of the hardcore guys have moved on to other vehicles, both racing and bashing.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Truggies have become much more popular to race, thus most of the maxxes sold are to regular guys who do not drive them that hard. Alot of the hardcore guys have moved on to other vehicles, both racing and bashing.

Yes, that´s right...

But to be honest - i own a brushless savage, too. I drive the savage one week, next week the supermaxx.

There _is_ not a single car i would like to compare to the supermaxx which is nearly as perfect concerning suspension and chassis!

the lightning chassis is perfect!

5 minutes and the complete gearbox can be exchanged!

try this with the savage!

the racers suspension can be adjusted just like a f1 car...

and so on.

the supermaxx dampers (yes, originaly ofna)

and to be honest: have you EVER, EVER seen an differential made as perfect as the supermaxx diffs?

there is not one single products i would mention which can be compared to the supermaxx products in terms of durability and quality. not one single product.

point.

marc.

p.s.: supermaxx servosaver: let me know of ONE SINGLE servo-saver which is as well made! one single saver... you will not find one.

[lincpimp]

Well if they are so good them you should not worry about replacements then!

HAHAHAHA
Just kidding!

I see your point, but nothing lasts forever. They must not be making money, or interests have shifted to something else. That is how it goes in this hobby, and life in general.

[rchippie]

I wonder if UE will make some more parts now that TRAXXAS has released a new emaxx ?.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Well if they are so good them you should not worry about replacements then!

Yes... now i understand! You are so right... there´s no problem at all with breaking parts.

whenever i will go driving in the future i will read my last mail and tell myself:

Hmmmm, you see marc, your car is so BOMB PROOF nothing will happen to it! There is no fu*cking chance that you will brake a single part.

And voila - nothing will happen!

That´s the solution.







Marc.

[lincpimp]

Sarcasm, eh!

You were raving about the quality so I had to throw that in. Has anyone tried to contact the guys at UE? Maybe get a straight answer from them about the future?

[ClodMaxx]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Sarcasm, eh!

You were raving about the quality so I had to throw that in. Has anyone tried to contact the guys at UE? Maybe get a straight answer from them about the future?

UE is totally unmatched in engineering, radical geometry improvements that improve handling and cornering, fit/finish is impeccable, and the quality of metals used are top notch as well. no other company - leading company or aftermarket company - makes anything that comes close.

it took me almost 2 years to build my supermaxx only to find that suddenly parts are no longer available. i don't build shelf queens, and it would be stupid to drive it and damage anything. i doubt anything would break, but even a scratch lessens the value.

it's totally sh*tty that robin didn't give any explanation. i've asked - he nor sam won't tell. word on the street is that robin and the machining side of the company (forget the guys name) parted ways. so UE r/c is no more. he can pump out all the friggin' harley gas tanks he likes, but i'm through.

so i sold the entire thing last night, and all spare UE parts i had.

[lincpimp]

That sucks. I tend to collect the strange rc has-beens. I bought the last thundertech pede chassis, and I have a racebomb too. Anyone know if bomb-proof are going to make anymore stuff?