So what's with UE?

[captain harlock]

I will destroy my maxx with a hammer and make a bunch of 7075 grade aluminum fork, spoon and a knife for my mother....at least I can make use of the shiny aluminum.:p

I think I'll get a MBX-5T PROSPEC and just forget about this SuperMaxx thingy.

It's already been too long for this truck to be existent in the market.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Sarcasm, eh!

Yes, a little bit...



Your avatar picture is ... no words.

The mood i am in when thinking about ue letting the supermaxx line die is kind of "double sided" (don´t know if one can say that in english... :-)) - on the one side i am angry that robin will let the SM thing die on the other side i am kind of angry because the SM cars i have cannot longer be used the way they were made for.

But as it was sad in this thread... it´s the way things go, like in real world: the old real-world cars i favour will no longer be made and the spare parts for the cars go through the roof in terms of price.

One example for German Engineering:

Porsche 993 turbo replacement engine, factory version, pricing 2006: Euro 59.000 whitout chargers.

The (whole) car was sold for about 100.000 Euro in 98 ( yes, complete, with engine, not just the chassis).

Porsche 996 replacement engine, still in production: about 9000 Euro.



So in a few years you will pay 500 Dollars for an ue center bone or suspension part.

Just kidding

Marc.

[ClodMaxx]

there's a thread on the UE forums now, where someone (sjcrss) asked about UE products. robin chimed in with his usual elusiveness:

As to what's going on behind the scenes, I've long since learned to keep things close to the chest, loose lips sink ships and all that.

Information will be revealed to the public when it's released, not a moment sooner.

Until then (cheers)

not sure what the heck that means...but it infers that something is in the works. i won't be holding my breath, but if he is working on something r/c related, it should be cool...

[sjcrss]

That would be me Clodmaxx, that asked the question......im just trying to figure out what to do with my truck is all

[ClodMaxx]

yep - that's why i put your name in my post.

i just figured i'd bring robin's comments over to this site, for anyone who doesn't frequent the UE forums.

[sjcrss]

np....i understand....

[JERRY2KONE]

Ok fellas after reading your concerns over the last few weeks, Just to share some info with you guys I wrote an email to Robin last week sharing some of your/our thoughts and concerns with him and asking what the future is for UE as far as the SuperMaxx was concerned. He basically told me that "all of the gossip was a huge BS campaign and that I should pay no attention to it. He said he has no plans on selling UE or letting the SuperMaxx line die". Now I do not know him personally, but why would he lie to us? What would be the gain for his business? UE is his life.

So in saying that I have faith that with the great quality of his product line for us and the reputaion that he has set for himself with the unbeatable quality of his MAXX line of products, that we are all worried about nothing. This is just one of the querks that we have to deal with when our supplier happens to be a private company and does not look at things from a mass production kind of view because money does not grow on trees, because production is not free. He has his hands in many pots and has to share his time accordingly in order to keep all of his customers interested in what he is selling. He is not in this just for the money. He loves what he does plain and simple.

I am sure that he would love to have the unlimited resoucres that the huge commercial conglomerates and goverment agencies have, but he is just one little company trying to find the best way to survive that he knows how. I have 4 UE superMaxx's and I love the quality of each and everyone of them. I agree that breaking any of them would be a shame, and getting replacement parts would be very difficult at the moment, but that would be our own fault for not preparing for the inevitable (everything manmade breaks). Personally if I break something I would be very suprprized, but what the heck are you doing to your trucks that would make that happen. UE manufactures probably the best quality SuperMaxx gear on the market and it is pretty much indestructable unless you are smashing into concrete walls, or jumping your truck off of a two story building. So what are you so worried about?

Bottom line is that you have your hands on one of the best R/C products that has ever been made. Unless you are trying to leave these trucks to your grandkids then Enjoy it and have fun doing what we all love to do. Drive your ass off and make some memories with your investment. Take photos and remember the good times. None of us will be here forever you know. You could be crushed by a semi on your way to the track with your SuperMaxx in the back seat.

I love reading all of the hubub in the various forums learning exactly what the pulse of our R/C brothers is, and I hope we will be talking about the SuperMaxx for a long time to come. Truth be told I just ordered several pieces from UE this past week including the gen IV servo saver and a few other items and they have already been shipped. Robin is working on the restocking issues and we just have to be patient. Of course that is just one R/C junkies opinion. I have been very lucky finding some of my gear on EBay at a very good price. I bought a box full of UE stuff last year for $750 when I just got started into building my first SuperMaxx, and When I priced out everything in the box it had a retail value of about $2200.

If I were you guys I would be getting all of your friends together that have UE products and start writing to Robin directly expressing how much we appreciate what he has been doing for us, and that we desire to keep the SuperMaxx product line up and running. He needs to hear from all of us so he knows how much of a demand there really is out there. Well I hope this helps some, and lets put the pressure in the right place to resolve the issues at hand. I hope I have not stepped on anyones elses toes with this. Have a great day guys.

[2FastSS4U]

Well said.

[captain harlock]

Now that's a relief. Probably I should just keep it and forget about converting a truggy anytime soon.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by ClodMaxx

yeah, i also read him saying that he learned a lesson about not letting plans out to the public too soon...which means that when we hear about the new project(s), it'll be right around the time they're available. hope it's something cool!

Hallo,

new projects are just fine but what´s about the "old" stuff?

right now i am having a super duper supermaxx which i cannot drive the way i want because there will be no replacement parts!

i just bought the last stuff from gp-racing (the ue distributor in germany) because he is NOT getting new stuff from unlimited!

i am definetly _not_ going to buy new designed ue parts when the old design is no longer supported.

marc.

p.s.: yes the supermaxx stuff is nearly indestructable but in this summer i destroyed for example two supermaxx cvds (_not_ stock lenght, ext lenght) and i am not getting spare parts now! Don´t misunderstand me - i don´t want to blame ue for anything. I love UE parts, that are the best RC parts i have ever seen in my life. i started my rc business with supermaxx parts and i was so impressed the way the parts are made... i am just unbelievable sad if robin is going to quit.

point.

[ClodMaxx]

i just gave up and sold my SM. if i waited to run it when new parts started showing up in inventory, i'd most likely have arthritis and couldn't drive it anyhow.

jerry - i appreciate what you wrote, but robin has been saying that for years and still nothing.

[JERRY2KONE]

Yes we all have different feelings about what is going on at UE, but from my point of view I have learned that there will always be roadblocks thrown in front of us, but we have to find a way around them. Giving up and selling our toys is not the answer. In the very last part of my blog I gave everyone the incentive to write to UE and express your feelings to them/Robin/Sam. If he gets enough of a response then that might be all it takes for him to see that there is a real reason to keep making the parts we need and supply us a little bit better. It is great that we all have these forums to vent on, but he is the one that needs to hear what we are going through. He is the only one who can get anything done with the UE issues for supplying us the parts we need.

With everyone running scared and selling their UE products over the last year I have managed to put together 4 Supermaxx's with UE parts purchased on EBay & other sites at huge discounts in most cases. We R/C junkies have to band together and make UE realize that They have an obligation to their customers to support & supply us with replacement parts since we are the ones who have kept them in business up to now. Venting and complaining on a forum is great for stress relief, but it is not going to make that point to UE... Look at the situation here, this is a win win scinario on both sides. We get what we want & need, and he gets money. This is not rocket science but if we don't speak out to UE nothing will get to the people who matter the most. I am sure that Robin is not reading these blogs, but he does read his emails almost every day. So we bombard him with requests to get better support for UE parts of the SuperMaxx. How hard is that to do?

Sorry if I am pissing in anyones weaties here, but I know you have all heard the saying "it is the squeeky wheel that gets the oil". Well lets start squeeking. At this point what have we got to lose. He either responds with a reasonable answer or he closes up shop on us. What do you think he will do?

While we are on the subject why isn't someone out there making a complete set of "UltraMaxxed" gears yet? The guy who was making them closed up shop quite a while ago. I know RC4WD has a mediocer copy of them, but they do not have the same capabilities as UE or FastLane for high quality machined parts. UE & FastLane would be a good place to start, or even Mike at RCmonster. There has to be someone out here that can make things happen for us. We litterally have thousands of people around the world who are involved in this hobby with EMAXX vehicles who need the support of one company or another. The only thing that produces success is demand, but only if the manufacturer knows that the demand exists. We have to speak up and make sure it gets to the right people. I know Mike has a reputation for getting us what we want and need. Maybe he is the man we should be talking with. Does anyone out there have a set uf ultramaxxed gears that they can send to Mike to use as a template? Just a thought.

I hope you guys are getting pissed about this and want to do something about it. Robin says UE is fine and recovering. So lets let him know that we are here waiting on him. Life is good. Have a great day gentelmen. I'm out.

[marc993turbo]

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Does anyone out there have a set uf ultramaxxed gears that they can send to Mike to use as a template?

Hi !

... yes, i have a set of gears still sitting in my spare parts box, i managed to get two sets of gears in the short time range they were produced by "ultramaxxed".

but i think there will be no real demand for the gears since the emaxx isn´t that state of the art anymore... and - to be really honest - with the unlimited idlers the ultramaxxed gears are nice to have but not really neccessary to build a bomb proof truck.

btw - are the ue idlers in stock anywhere? i think not...

But i will comment on what you said regarding the demand of ue products:

There _is_ demand of ue products and robin should know this. the german distributor, gp-racing.de has so many open orders that are months old and he gets no parts...

robin could get hundreds of dollars just from me - i would instantly order lightning chassis, 7.5er diffs, shox, all that.

even on his homepage he writes that he will only sell via his distributors... and the distributors don´t get parts.

i would instantly order parts for a few hundred dollars if i could.

marc.

p.s.:

same problem with gorillamaxx - you get no parts.

[JERRY2KONE]

I am not here to defend UE or Robin. I have merely been trying to get everyone who has an interest in the UE products to stand up and be heard. Neither you or I can do anything on our own, but if he gets hit from all sides by everyone who has spoken in these forums he has to take notice, and maybe he will come through. I have no idea what UE's problems are, but we have to fight together as a group of R/C diplomats and make him pay attention. And I just ordered two sets of steel idlers on Friday and they were mailed out yesterday. I should have them within a week. So the products are still comming, but slowly from what I can see.

I wrote an email to Mike (RCMONSTER) this morning to request his assistance in convincing FLM to make a set of gears like the ULTRAMAXX gears for production and sale. You may think that there is no need for them but I am one to say that there is a need. I run all metal gearing in my trucks, but I know they can be made better.

I have never heard so much negativity in all my life. Don't you get it. There is always strength in numbers. Besides what do you have to lose???? Obviously you are already having trouble getting the UE gear so why not fight for it. If all you have to contribute is negative energy then why are you even bothering talking on here about it? If you fall down, what do you do? That is right you get back up and keep pushing forward.

If you're on the UE forums, then you've seen this - check MM's response in the thread - reply #5 I believe -

http://www.unlimitedengineering.com/...407#post232407

MM almost makes it sounds like he's not finished with the RC scene, but I don't know what to think. I have enough spares for my 3 that I will continue to run, build and modify until I run short on spares. It would be nice to see him make a comeback, especially on parts that wear (Super6, cvds etc). But I wouldn't blame him if he remained a custom motorcycle parts inventor/supplier.

Also, the guy who posts as "bnighs" on UE forum (I've bought a lot of UE stuff from him, he is dependable and reliable - check UE BST trader info also) posted a few weeks back that he had finally "finished" the UltraMaxx E-Maxx gear sets and they were available. I believe he explained he was involved in getting them produced (latest generation) and IIRC said he had 30sets.

Ben works a weird schedule, so if you try and contact him, it may be a while before he gets replies. I think his job is in a diff state from where he lives and he is gone days at a time. He has always replied to pms I've sent him. I've seen no further mention so I have no clue if he still has any left - most of his dealings go on via pms.

Ben is the guy who made the OTB trans setups that were used for supermaxx.