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Supermaxx
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02.16.2009, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryu James
i ran the 2 shoe clutch system on my first conversion without troubles but after experimenting with the longshank pinion i liked it better for some reason and have stuck with it since.
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That's the biggest oxymoron I have read so far. We're talking about elektri-clutch and you come in rambling about diff and chassis mounted setups.
It seems like you haven't gotten over your discussion with someone else in the forum   .
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Second place is the first loser!
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02.16.2009, 01:35 PM
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That's the biggest oxymoron I have read so far. We're talking about elektri-clutch and you come in rambling about diff and chassis mounted setups.
It seems like you haven't gotten over your discussion with someone else in the forum   .
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my Bad,
you are right George. i should have included Brians question from post#21 in my post.
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Teknorc: I was curious what effect, if any, that the long shank pinions have on motor bearings? During operation, doesn't the flexing/twisting of the chassis put stress on the motor bearings (front especially) from the spur/pinion pressing together?
BTW: I'm not trying to slam the product, just was curious about your thoughts on this..
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i was replying more to this but as i also stated i should be getting my new 3 shoe clutch today and will be sure to post feedback on it. also, the posts by Himalaya seemed like they could benefit from a different perspective. thats all, Bud.
oh, and btw, read up on the definition of the word oxymoron before you use it again. maybe you meant something else, idk.
def. oxymoron
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.
a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”
a couple of examples of an oxymoron would be "jumbo shrimp", "soft rock" or in todays economy some might call "job security" an oxymoron.
good luck.
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Losi Ten-T SCT conversion Neu 1512 1y
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RC-Monster Titanium
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02.16.2009, 05:51 PM
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Not much he can do without seeing the car in person. This clutch is working fine for many users and your situation seems isolated to me.
Have you tried to send the clutch in for a FREE replacement to the new version yet? They designed it for people who have trouble setting these things up on their own. The new clutch is foolproof.
You could have a working car in the matter of days if you do send it in.
Good luck!
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read up alittle, many of us have had this problem and the only fix so far is to lose the clutch and run a long shank pinion.
i want a real fix, if i wanted direct drive i would have bought the rc monster mount and been done with it.
both times now that i have tried to figure it out with tekno they have just stoped responding to me in e-mails and the fourms, i have been patient but with the looming threat of of the race season starting soon i need results because i dont want to have to spend $60 on a diffrent motor mount so that i dont have to use the long shank pinions.
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......maybe they want to be more like novak
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I'm telling Patrick you said that!
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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02.16.2009, 08:24 PM
Have just started using the Electriclutch and it's goin fine for me, haven't had the clutchbell over 160 yet and I have been trying to heat the bugger up.
Just using standard Revo shoes and spring.
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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02.17.2009, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Semi Pro
read up alittle, many of us have had this problem and the only fix so far is to lose the clutch and run a long shank pinion.
i want a real fix, if i wanted direct drive i would have bought the rc monster mount and been done with it.
both times now that i have tried to figure it out with tekno they have just stoped responding to me in e-mails and the fourms, i have been patient but with the looming threat of of the race season starting soon i need results because i dont want to have to spend $60 on a diffrent motor mount so that i dont have to use the long shank pinions.
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At this point, it is too hard to diagnose without seeing it. We've been through all of the questions but I feel we are missing something. I think the 3 shoe clutch will work way better but I don't want to mask the problem for you. Send us your old clutch adapter and we'll upgrade it for you just like we have for many of our other customers. Feedback from the 3-shoe setup has been 100% positive so far. Again, send us your old adapters (include the whole assembly so we can take a look at it).
Oh, one more thing I was thinking about (this may seem like a dumb question, don't take this the wrong way:). Is there any way that upon accelerating that the brakes are also engaging? What is your radio setup like? Are you using 3rd channel mixing or a Y connector?
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RC-Monster Titanium
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02.18.2009, 05:31 AM
the brakes are not engaging while accelerating, im not useing 3rd channel mixing, i am currently useing a y-connector
i will drop the old tekno adapter in the mail, where do i get 3-shoe clutch pads from? because i cant think of any 3 shoe clutches
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......maybe they want to be more like novak
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I'm telling Patrick you said that!
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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02.18.2009, 12:42 PM
Any standard 1/8th 3-shoe clutch shoes will work (Ofna, Kyosho, Mugen, Jammin). Or we have a set that can be used (TKR4105). Same with the springs, but we recommend the thinner .7mm springs (TKR4107).
Also, you might want to try the truck without brakes for a couple minutes (just unplug the servo) and see what happens. Either way, get us that old adapter and we'll get you an updated one. Thanks.
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Second place is the first loser!
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02.20.2009, 07:35 PM
got my new 3 shoe clutch a couple of days ago. hoping to get my Mugen up and running this weekend. i havent even been able to drive a single one of my trucks for about a month now. i am having serious withdrawals. everything has been taken apart while making custom chassis'. anyway, the weather is a bit warmer now and i cant wait to drive again. i looking forward to trying the new clutch and let you know what i think. it looks top quality.
question though, i didnt see any carbon shoes that you sell for this new clutch. do you have any on your site that i didnt see? i just want to run a single carbon shoe with the other 2 alum shoes. heard this reduces maintenance and helps to keep the gunk out of clutchbell associated with running alum. shoes.
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02.20.2009, 08:15 PM
another quick question.
is there a reason why you used steel for the clutch shoe adaptor instead of aluminum like most designs and like your previous 2 shoe clutch? i know you mentioned that this new design is heavier just wondering if using aluminum could have save on weight a bit.
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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02.20.2009, 10:01 PM
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another quick question.
is there a reason why you used steel for the clutch shoe adapter instead of aluminum like most designs and like your previous 2 shoe clutch? i know you mentioned that this new design is heavier just wondering if using aluminum could have save on weight a bit.
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We went with steel so we could have it be all one piece, spin true, and greatly increase it's durability. Using aluminum wouldn't have held up.
The three shoe clutch, ready to go, is only 3 grams heavier than the previous multi piece, 2 shoe design ready to go. And the new two shoe clutch adapter is 7 grams lighter than the original.
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02.21.2009, 04:10 PM
thanks Matthew,
another question. does the new 2 shoe design use the same springs as the 3 shoe with a trailing shoe setup or is it like the old 2 shoe setup with the spring that wraps around the shoes?
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Thank You Brushless Gods!
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02.21.2009, 05:16 PM
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thanks Matthew,
another question. does the new 2 shoe design use the same springs as the 3 shoe with a trailing shoe setup or is it like the old 2 shoe setup with the spring that wraps around the shoes?
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Same shoes and same spring set-up.
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02.21.2009, 05:38 PM
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Same shoes and same spring set-up.
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as what??? the 2 shoe or 3 shoe????
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02.21.2009, 07:09 PM
sorry bro........2 shoe
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02.28.2009, 09:58 PM
Hey Tekno,
With the 3 shoe adaptor I know that different clutchbells fit better than others as some fully cover the shoes and some don't. I have Tekno clutchbell and I compared it to a mugen one. The mugen one has a slightly shorter skirt, will this be a problem? It still looks like it will cover the shoes, but I just wanted to know if has tried other brands of clutchbells. Thanks.
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Losi 8B 1.5, Tekno V3 w/clutch (3-shoe), 14/48, MMM, Neu 1512 2Y
Losi 8T 2.0, Tekno V3 w/clutch (3-shoe), 14/48, MMM, T8 1550kv
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