going to buy a rifle---advice?

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Originally Posted by Bondonutz

I'd much rather live in a country that allows folks to owns firearms than live in a country that does not and have to defend my homestead and family with a stick or throwing a sheep at a burgler ?

Me too. And throwing a sheep isn't as bad as some countries do

I have to clarify some, I said I have no love for guns, not that I don't have or use them. I just don't kiss them goodnight like a lot of non-Americans might think. And Bondo I don't think JT's post was directed at anyone here, and neither was mine.

Having to fire shots is an unenviable position to be in, and would surely change most people's outlook on the matter. Shooting for sport is great, hunting, as well as defense. I think what JT was saying (and don't mean to put words in your mouth) was that there is a generation or two now that grew up in the 'thug' culture. And these are the ones that have a Glock just so they could be badass or gangsta... whatever. I also know there's very young kids who ARE taught properly. The point here is the fact that you own a gun does not immediately demand my respect for you. Again, not directed at anyone. This is an argument where no matter what 'side' you choose, you will be attacked by someone.

Maybe I'm one of the few 'open minded' Americans who can actually see both sides, and also see how it would look to an Aussie or a Belgian. It's not the guns, it is the attitude that comes with it for some people. Defense is fine, it's when people go on the offense with it, and I think we can all agree the crims are the offenders. I often wondered what the hell I would use instead of a gun, might be fun to tase the shit out of someone. But really there isn't much else...

I still find it amazing that coppers in Britain don't carry, every bit as baffling as we must seem to them. I don't think any less of other cultures for being non-gun societies. But I think I'd only wanna visit, not stay.

Bondo I've shot pretty much every Ruger there is, lots of match rifles, SKS's,
and I was pretty good for a short while, then just pretty much lost interest in it. I actually know the #1 guy in the nation currently, he can do 1000+ yds with open sights, Fcking unreal.

I ain't got it no more..