No ask, no tell me

[TexasSP]

I have been out for the past few days and went to a crawler comp yesterday so I an just now catching back up. I will hit a few points here.

For the adoption part, I am with finnster and some others. First you must understand adoption is very close to my heart. My wife and sister in law are adopted as well as several of my cousins. While I do not support a gay/lesbian couple as the first choice for an adoptive child, I would much rather the child be in that family than one who is abusive or lost in the foster system. I believe a human has much more ability to deal with any harm that would do them versus dealing with an abusive relationship.

As for the celebrities it sickens me how it has become celeb-sheik to adopt children from wherever. Seriously, it's just like Paris and her dogs. Children are not an accessory and/or status symbol.

Now going back to the main topic. I still can't see how it adversely affects people being gay/lesbian in the military. There are plenty of hetero people causing problems as well and just can't see how someone being gay will automatically cause a problem. As long is the guy in the shower isn't staring at you constantly who cares? I had guys in high school who we later found out were gay and took showers with us in the locker room with no adverse effects. I really don't see that if I am hunkered down under fire in Iraq next to a gay guy that his first inclination is to jump me and have sex.

I have known too many gay/lesbian people, have and had too many gay/lesbian friends and have gays/lesbians in my family to pigeon hole them into a corner all the same. I know people who lived the gay/lesbian lifestyle and now do not. And no they didn't go to some weird religious camp to scare the gay away. These are people who were in therapy and through it's course worked through many issues and came out wanting a different life. So my belief is that a myriad of factors contributes to a person being gay and that there is no set formula or gene that makes it so.

[hootie7159]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

So my belief is that a myriad of factors contributes to a person being gay and that there is no set formula or gene that makes it so.

well said tex....nice post...

[zeropointbug]

Ultimately it is choice, I would agree with that. (Reno911) To get to the crossroads there is something causing it... I have said society, but I think a better word would be 'system', it's fucked up as most of you will agree and like Texas said, a myriad of factors that stems from the root of the system.

[bumsnogger]

Hi guys.I had a friend who's stepdad would come home drunk and b****r him.He's a full on junkie now! His stepdad was "straight" He ruined a life! But my friend did slit him from hip to hip,and got "away with it" because of diminished responsibility.That means the police knew about it!! So ,if his stepdad was gay ,he wouldn't have "needed" to do that to a child,he would have got his jollies with his partner.Same in the muslim world,or anywhere that bans homosexuallity.People have extremely strong urges.Oh nice one to the african president who let the 2 gay guys off a 14 year sentence for getting engaged. If any of us couldn't satisfy our urges,we'd explode!(not literally).If someone doesn't find the opposite sex attractive,but does find the same sex nice,who am I to say it's wrong? Or you for that matter. If Obamah said ugly women deserve sex,and every American man had to service a monster,could you get it up? Neither can gay guys ,with pretty or munty ladies!