1406 4 pole 4600kv - Page 2 - RC-Monster Forums

Pdelcast · 10.18.2010, 04:07 PM

For those who were asking:

No, you can't upgrade the CM36 motors to a 1406 rotor... just wouldn't work. The 1406 uses a 4 pole rotor, and 12 slot stator. It's really just a miniature version of our award-winning 1515 motor.

It does have 200C rated magnets, 180C rated windings, and high performance bearings (NMB Japan.)

About a year ago, we started wondering how a "ROAR" legal size motor would perform with an internal design that was the same as the 1515. We had to reduce the rotor diameter a bit to meet the 36.02mm maximum outside diameter specified by ROAR, but after building samples and seeing how well the motor performed, we decided to roll out a whole line that matched our existing CM36 line.

The 1406 motor generates more torque, is more efficient over almost the entire operational band, and has much higher maximum power output than the CM36.

It is making it's debut at the Chicago show this week. :) That's why I gave Slim the OK to start a discussion about this new motor.

This motor uses the same internal construction as the 1410 (3800Kv) SCT motor, but uses a shorter rotor and stack to raise the Kv to 1/10th scale range.

slimthelineman · 04:24 PM

well there you go, honey i shrunk the 1515! opened her up this morning and sure enough its a mini 15 series motor! no wonder it had so much power and didnt want to get hot, kinda deceiving for its size.

thanks again Patrick, great motor and some great info on it too. I think 4 pole 1/10 scale motors are gonna be the new standard after people see what they are capable of.

Arct1k · 10.18.2010, 04:51 PM

Great news! Now just add them to the motor sale. Lol

BrianG · 10.18.2010, 04:58 PM

Can anyone say "VXL killer"?

I have a VXL in my e-jato only because Medusas are pretty scarce nowadays and the only other reasonably-priced easily-obtainable motor with a kv suited for 3-4s lipo was the VXL. Even then, I'm not entirely happy with it. It stays cool but doesn't have the snap I'm used to. The CM36 line has its uses I'm sure, but I bet you'll sell a lot of these 4 pole versions...

Arct1k · 10.18.2010, 05:05 PM

Want a medusa? Pm me if you want one.

I think I'll be changing soon.

slimthelineman · 10.18.2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k

Want a medusa? Pm me if you want one.

I think I'll be changing soon.

And so it begins, anyone know if castle is a publicly traded company? Might be the time to buy some stock. I think it's great to see a company coming up with newer better ideas instead of copying or rebadging. Definately speaks volumes about the company in my opinion. Not to mention they are spearheading the "roar" sector of the market which has been long ruled by a select few manufactures. Would love to see castle take over, and with motors like these y'all better watch out ya hear?

nitrostarter · 10.18.2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG

Can anyone say "VXL killer"?

Or VXL replacement?

Traxxas already uses the MMM combo in the ERBE and EMBL. I could definitely see them changing the VXL systems to this new Castle motor with a spec ESC. Then they could advertise the Rustler VXL at 80+mph...

ZippyBasher · 05:46 PM

I think Brian had it right. VXL KILLER... Either this or the 1410 is replacing the VXL in the FLM Rustler... With 90% Al and Masher 2k's the VXL easily gets to 170*. Plus I really prefer Castle Products.

Patrick, Can you give us the inside scoop on the Winds available? Or just 4600kv to start? I ask because I would prefer something 3000-3500 (or just go 1410?) Good on 3s without winding out the RPMs too much... (~35,000 on 3s)

I just realized that 2s and this is right there at 35k RPM. But I have no 2s!

slimthelineman · 10.18.2010, 05:49 PM

Pretty sure that they will come in all the same winds as the cm36 series and then the longer 1410 3800 kv.

Pdelcast · 10.18.2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slimthelineman

Pretty sure that they will come in all the same winds as the cm36 series and then the longer 1410 3800 kv.

Yeah, slim is right.

We will be offering a 7700Kv, 6900Kv, 5700Kv and 4600Kv.

(and of course, the 3800Kv 1410 motor...)

Thanx!

BrianG · 10.18.2010, 09:02 PM

The 3800kv motor will be sweet on 3s. Just need a ~2200kv for 4s use.

Pdelcast · 10.18.2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG

The 3800kv motor will be sweet on 3s. Just need a ~2200kv for 4s use.

That's coming... 1415, 2400Kv bundled with Mamba Max Pro...

We call it the SCT Pro -- or something like that.

BrianG · 10.18.2010, 09:24 PM

That right there is R/C pron!

crazyjr · 10.18.2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Yeah, slim is right.

We will be offering a 7700Kv, 6900Kv, 5700Kv and 4600Kv.

(and of course, the 3800Kv 1410 motor...)

Thanx!

Hey Patrick, Will these replace the current offerings in 1/10 scale? Also, can you say if you are looking at a similar motor design for the mini crowd? I'd like to see a 1210 in a 3500 to 4000kv for the mini E-revo

Pdelcast · 10.18.2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr

Hey Patrick, Will these replace the current offerings in 1/10 scale? Also, can you say if you are looking at a similar motor design for the mini crowd? I'd like to see a 1210 in a 3500 to 4000kv for the mini E-revo

Won't replace -- but will be available as additional combos...

Will first be available in combo with the MMP, and as standalone.

Thanx!

Patrick