MaxAmps Race Edition Lipos - Page 13 - RC-Monster Forums

thzero · 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

thzero
I am unfamiliar with that ad. It must have been something that was done before I came on board. Maybe give us a call in the office and ask to speak with Austin. 888-654-4450

As shown its from the R/C Car October 2010 issue. And there isn't a word about it on the website.

hootie7159 · 10.27.2010, 11:53 AM

Here you go Zero...found it on rctech....

http://www.rctech.net/forum/maxamps-...-hk-packs.html

10.27.2010, 12:05 PM

The price matching was discontinued. However you could still call Austin at 888-654-4450 and he might be able to do something for you.

I will address the power supply thread shortly. I have a lot of work to get done this week so please be patient with me as I post up new graphs/tests/videos/responses.

Thanks,

Brandon

brian015 · 10.27.2010, 01:06 PM

I'd have to say that the power supply thread is a little overboard. Do a little work and get it for $20 (I did) - or buy a MA supply now for cheaper than you can get one with those specs anywhere else retail (as far as I know). I really don't think MA needs to defend itself over that power supply.

thzero · 10.27.2010, 02:17 PM

Yeah, the info that it was discontinued need to be on their website; after all a website is a place to dispense information... funny how that works.

There were a lot of claims made in that thread, and probably same thing seen elsewhere, about two things:

a) poor quality of cells used by others, especially overseas companies.
b) poor quality of wires.

For a), this claim has been made before. Maybe its true, maybe its not. But considering that individual cells are not labeled (discounting the fact they could be completely mislabeled) there is no real way for the average r/cer to know. If you are going to make a claim about someone else's product, you should be able to back it up. Otherwise its just an unsubstantiated opinion. Austin does say they use "A" grade cells, fine, state that on your website with the cell information. But even so, you should take the time and explain it as the average hobby person does not buy lithum cells directly so wouldn't know they come in different grades, different chemistries, etc.

He also says " You can see the details of EXACTLY how we test our packs on our website under the lipo info section.", yet there isn't anything about it on the website. Don't hide this information, make it very easily accessible from the main page; i.e. Lipo Care, Lipo Testing, Lipo Cell Info, etc. There was some decent information in that thread, but if it had been posted on the website, then you wouldn't need to keep repeating yourself.

Personally I think 8AWG is overkill, I use 10AWG myself as opposed to the smaller 12AWG which is probably fine for 2/3S batteries. Again, make a claim, you need to back it up. Here's a link (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...p?prod=ose-6rw) to the stuff I use.

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Originally Posted by hootie7159

Here you go Zero...found it on rctech....

http://www.rctech.net/forum/maxamps-...-hk-packs.html

10.27.2010, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero

Yeah, the info that it was discontinued need to be on their website; after all a website is a place to dispense information... funny how that works.

There were a lot of claims made in that thread, and probably same thing seen elsewhere, about two things:

a) poor quality of cells used by others, especially overseas companies.
b) poor quality of wires.

For a), this claim has been made before. Maybe its true, maybe its not. But considering that individual cells are not labeled (discounting the fact they could be completely mislabeled) there is no real way for the average r/cer to know. If you are going to make a claim about someone else's product, you should be able to back it up. Otherwise its just an unsubstantiated opinion. Austin does say they use "A" grade cells, fine, state that on your website with the cell information. But even so, you should take the time and explain it as the average hobby person does not buy lithum cells directly so wouldn't know they come in different grades, different chemistries, etc.

He also says " You can see the details of EXACTLY how we test our packs on our website under the lipo info section.", yet there isn't anything about it on the website. Don't hide this information, make it very easily accessible from the main page; i.e. Lipo Care, Lipo Testing, Lipo Cell Info, etc. There was some decent information in that thread, but if it had been posted on the website, then you wouldn't need to keep repeating yourself.

Personally I think 8AWG is overkill, I use 10AWG myself as opposed to the smaller 12AWG which is probably fine for 2/3S batteries. Again, make a claim, you need to back it up. Here's a link (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...p?prod=ose-6rw) to the stuff I use.

I am working on all the detailed information for the site as we speak, so that will be up soon. Thanks for your suggestions, I will be posting up some tests that we have conducted and links to other third party sites that conducted test on some of the cheaper cells out there and you can see for yourself the results. I know off the top of my head Big Squid tested some cheaper LiPos and they performed poorly. I also believe rcbox.com did as well. Chat soon - Brandon

thzero · 10.27.2010, 03:29 PM

http://www.bigsquidrc.com/li-po-batt...final-results/

For 25 bucks, Zippy's performed about where I would expect them. For a price vs. performance based on that test you really can't beat them for general all around bashing. For racing? Results may vary.

RCBox.com doesn't exist, or at least not anymore. :)

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Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

I know off the top of my head Big Squid tested some cheaper LiPos and they performed poorly. I also believe rcbox.com did as well. Chat soon - Brandon

suicideneil · 10.27.2010, 05:32 PM

I believe it's called MyRCbox.com these days- there are various lipo articles there but I see only a link to the BigSquid lipo shootout just taking a quick glance. I would love to see a list of tests carried out by other sites and site members, currently they are scattered around and hard to locate..

bryan · 10.27.2010, 07:46 PM

Sooo how do the turnigy nano tech cells compare to these max amp race edition cells.Rated "a" to"e".

JERRY2KONE · **Good question? -** 10.27.2010, 07:50 PM

Thats a good question. I bet they are using the same cells. So how is the price in comparison?

reno911 · 10.27.2010, 07:57 PM

http://www.hobbypartz.com/98p-40c-50...-hardcase.html

#2 according to bigsquids test. Look, feel, and perform superbly. Barely lost to Hyperion in the shoot out.

I own two and love them. How can you go wrong.

Brandon, it is things like that that are the no brainers in this industry.

I wish I could have a no brainer purchase from a reputable US company. But for one I can not afford to play with my toys at the rate of your batteries. Two, I have read nothing but bad things, so I am scared to buy something at a higher price if all I hear is that they fail. 20 dollars in and I get a failure, I do not feel bad. These things are what a consumer looks at. I am not saying that MaxAmps are bad, but even you must see this. There was, is, maybe, never was shady business practice, but I think you have the right mindset to help the company get out of this with a better looking horizon. You are already taking a better perspective to the craziness that is located in this forum.

I hope things get turning to a brighter Maxamps future and that one day your batteries are looked at as a no brainer purchase.

sikeston34m · 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bryan

Sooo how do the turnigy nano tech cells compare to these max amp race edition cells.Rated "a" to"e".

I don't know about comparisons........but............

I have 2 of the 2S 25C/50C 4000mah Nanotech packs pushing my E Revo around now. Alot of truck for 4000mah cells on 4S IMO..............

They have ALOT of punch..............come out only slightly warm and balance perfectly everytime. In fact, I'm not balancing them because I want to know how many runs before they do need balancing.

My E Revo setup is:

MMM ESC
CC Neu 1518 geared 24/52 (about 40mph before the tires balloon)

I'm considering a pair of 3S Nano techs so she can show me some 6S power with this motor.

Note: If Maxamps wants to "cut me a deal" on a pair of 2S 6500mah packs, I WILL post an open minded review here for RC Monster Members. No, I'm not calling to talk to Jason or Austin. If interested, send me a PM here.

Note #2: I'm not paying a Bazillion Bucks.

JERRY2KONE · **Thats the thing. -** 10.27.2010, 09:38 PM

You see Brandon thats the thing here. People are willing to give Maxamps a second chance now that there seems to be a renewed face for us to deal with, but Maxamps has to offer something worth taking a chance on considering your new claims. There have been some serious trust issues with Maxamps for the last couple of years over bad packs, personality issues, and poor warrenty services, and just putting a sticker on your new packs stating (TRUE 150C) isn't going to open the flood gates with consumers. If your prices are more than ten percent higher than your competitors, then why would any of us take a leap of faith considering the company's past? If you really want people scrambling to get their hands on your new Race Ready packs, then some distance needs to be made up through proof of your "C" rating claims, more competitive pricing, and improved customer services.

moneybagsfor-rc · 09:46 PM

For some reason I don't like the idea of "give me a free lipo and I will test it for you" such as the bigsquid lipo battles. There is a bias to this that none of you are thinking of: Companies can test their packs and make sure they send you their best pack.

Now if you buy the battery pack normally (and in the case of Maxamps, use their 30 day money back thing) then the company will have no reason to assume you will test and publish pack performance and thus they are more likely to send you a regular pack.

When it comes down to something like batteries, you shouldn't tell the company to send you some free batteries for testing because they will just send you some super cracked out batteries.

A solution would be to buy the battery normally and then ask the company to buy your battery back after the test. But then the poorest performer probably won't pay you back.

lincpimp · 10.27.2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by moneybagsfor-rc

For some reason I don't like the idea of "give me a free lipo and I will test it for you" such as the bigsquid lipo battles. There is a bias to this that none of you are thinking of: Companies can test their packs and make sure they send you their best pack.

Now if you buy the battery pack normally (and in the case of Maxamps, use their 30 day money back thing) then the company will have no reason to assume you will test and publish pack performance and thus they are more likely to send you a regular pack.

When it comes down to something like batteries, you shouldn't tell the company to send you some free batteries for testing because they will just send you some super cracked out batteries.

A solution would be to buy the battery normally and then ask the company to buy your battery back after the test. But then the poorest performer probably won't pay you back.

Not a bad idea...

I would suggest that any reviewer just find pics of the lipos online, using google pic search and then rate the packs on how nice the label is. Much simpler and cheaper, and would avoid any cost or need for free packs.

Best idea yet, you can all thank me later.