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jzemaxx · 12.04.2008, 09:25 PM

Neu's will go well over 60K rpms. Umm my 1521 1.5D is 1900KV. I'm running 12S on it.....do the RPM math ;)

speedracer1129 · 12.04.2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jzemaxx

Neu's will go well over 60K rpms. Umm my 1521 1.5D is 1900KV. I'm running 12S on it.....do the RPM math ;)

Ok, Jzemaxx I do have a question for you. Does your 1521 have the same motor mount spacing as a 1515?? That is the motor I originally wanted to run but I was under the impression that the 1521s had a different spacing for the mount?

jzemaxx · 12.04.2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by speedracer1129

Ok, Jzemaxx I do have a question for you. Does your 1521 have the same motor mount spacing as a 1515?? That is the motor I originally wanted to run but I was under the impression that the 1521s had a different spacing for the mount?

If your asking about the bolt spacing for mounting, then yes they are the same. My 1527's are the same as well.

speedracer1129 · 12.04.2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jzemaxx

If your asking about the bolt spacing for mounting, then yes they are the same. My 1527's are the same as well.

Thanks for the info!

12.04.2008, 09:30 PM

you buy a used motor from me... come on here post your wonderful setup then when you run the motor over what its max rpm is and after you run it for more then 30 seconds in your paypal claim you want your money back......

you ran 1 run you had the carrier fail that would cause an abrupt shock on it and damage the bearings in the motor. i should not be responsible for you not running the motor within its specs. i ra the motor on 5s without any issues.

speedracer1129 · 12.04.2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesecake

you buy a used motor from me... come on here post your wonderful setup then when you run the motor over what its max rpm is and after you run it for more then 30 seconds in your paypal claim you want your money back......

you ran 1 run you had the carrier fail that would cause an abrupt shock on it and damage the bearings in the motor. i should not be responsible for you not running the motor within its specs. i ra the motor on 5s without any issues.

The motor was never ran out of it's specs to start. As previously stated, the motor was already giving problems on 5S and with no load so that says something. I may have made the mistake to have intended to run it after seeing that happen, but I had no reason to think there was any problem with the motor.

12.04.2008, 09:48 PM

there was nothing wrong with the motor when i sent it and your abuse on it should not make me responsible.

speedracer1129 · 12.04.2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesecake

you buy a used motor from me... come on here post your wonderful setup then when you run the motor over what its max rpm is and after you run it for more then 30 seconds in your paypal claim you want your money back......

you ran 1 run you had the carrier fail that would cause an abrupt shock on it and damage the bearings in the motor. i should not be responsible for you not running the motor within its specs. i ra the motor on 5s without any issues.

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Originally Posted by cheesecake

there was nothing wrong with the motor when i sent it and your abuse on it should not make me responsible.

Ok. This the last time I make a comment to you on this forum in my thread. At no time did I drag anyone's name or say don't deal with such and such as I think things should be dealt in there proper place. That is why I opened a "dispute", not a "claim" through Paypal as it is the proper thing when someone feels they have possibly been part of a bad transaction. With that said, by you coming on here and throwing "dirty laundry" for everyone to see I take it personal as I feel it makes me look bad whether true or not.

SOOOOO.............. You stated the motor was in excellent condition. You stated that it only had a "couple" of races on it AND with fans! You also stated that you were running it with fuel tubing around the wires to protect them from possible shorting. Well here is the funny thing. I found your thread in RCtech and you communicated with me on the 25th of Nov. Here is the post with your description:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...a-monster.html

Now how is it that I found a thread here on Monster

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16522

dated 12 days prior to the RCtech thread stating the motor had 3 races PLUS practice? How is it there is no pics of the fans or a fan mount you stated? Most importantly, why does the Monster thread show the motor wires with NO tubing? Why did you go through the headache of unsoldering whatever connectors you were using, put fuel tubing over the wires, and put new connectors and cover the entire wire with heat shrink?? What were you hiding????

Next time, don't be so quick to try to make someone look stupid when you are the one that ends up.........See you at Paypal and don't post on my thread!!

12.04.2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by speedracer1129

Ok. This the last time I make a comment to you on this forum in my thread. At no time did I drag anyone's name or say don't deal with such and such as I think things should be dealt in there proper place. That is why I opened a "dispute", not a "claim" through Paypal as it is the proper thing when someone feels they have possibly been part of a bad transaction. With that said, by you coming on here and throwing "dirty laundry" for everyone to see I take it personal as I feel it makes me look bad whether true or not.

SOOOOO.............. You stated the motor was in excellent condition. You stated that it only had a "couple" of races on it AND with fans! You also stated that you were running it with fuel tubing around the wires to protect them from possible shorting. Well here is the funny thing. I found your thread in RCtech and you communicated with me on the 25th of Nov. Here is the post with your description:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...a-monster.html

Now how is it that I found a thread here on Monster

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16522

dated 12 days prior to the RCtech thread stating the motor had 3 races PLUS practice? How is it there is no pics of the fans or a fan mount you stated? Most importantly, why does the Monster thread show the motor wires with NO tubing? Why did you go through the headache of unsoldering whatever connectors you were using, put fuel tubing over the wires, and put new connectors and cover the entire wire with heat shrink?? What were you hiding????

Next time, don't be so quick to try to make someone look stupid when you are the one that ends up.........See you at Paypal and don't post on my thread!!

i did that because i wanted to protect the wires thats why it was done. yes 3 race days thats a couple im sorry you want other people to pay for your mistakes there was a fan on the motor you can try to call me out but you trying to be a tough guy will get you no where. there was never a warrenty implied on the motor you made a pass your truggy fell apart that makes you responsible for it not me.

dirt101 · 12.04.2008, 10:49 PM

while on the cracked rotor topic I thought I would mention that I cracked the rotor on my velineon on 3s. I was doing donuts with tiny tires for a few minutes attempting to lay down some sweet black marks(i know its dumb...I dont do stupid stuff anymore) and while at 168F my rotor cracked after about 15-20 seconds of a WOT donut. Couldnt have been more than 38,000rpm.

speedracer1129 · 12.12.2008, 09:57 PM

Update: Still dealing with the motor issue. On a good note, I have spoken to Medusa and I will be getting a 80mm 1600kv hopefully soon to test out........

Patrick · 02:27 AM

Personally to me it doesn't really seem like there was a problem with the motor when you got it. You said it did 71mph in 100ft without reporting any temp issues, so to me it sounds like the motor is good at that point. Then the center diff carrier fails and causes the center diff bearing to fail as well and also chew up the spur gear. That's going to put a lot of shock loads onto the motor, especially if it happened at high rpm. I wouldn't be surprised if the motor was damaged at that point. Even if it was a brand new motor you were using it could have been damaged then. It was only after that point that you noticed a problem with the motor, which makes me think there wasn't a problem before.
I'm sure if cheescake thought there was a problem with the motor he would just send it to neu, and not make it hard for him to sell anything else on a couple of different forums.

Should be an interesting car though once it's got a new/repaired motor in it, definatly needs a video.

speedracer1129 · 12.13.2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

Personally to me it doesn't really seem like there was a problem with the motor when you got it. You said it did 71mph in 100ft without reporting any temp issues, so to me it sounds like the motor is good at that point. Then the center diff carrier fails and causes the center diff bearing to fail as well and also chew up the spur gear. That's going to put a lot of shock loads onto the motor, especially if it happened at high rpm. I wouldn't be surprised if the motor was damaged at that point. Even if it was a brand new motor you were using it could have been damaged then. It was only after that point that you noticed a problem with the motor, which makes me think there wasn't a problem before.
I'm sure if cheescake thought there was a problem with the motor he would just send it to neu, and not make it hard for him to sell anything else on a couple of different forums.

Should be an interesting car though once it's got a new/repaired motor in it, definatly needs a video.

Pat,

I understand where you are coming from. However, when I have a manufacturer telling me something else, I would have to assume he knows what he is telling me!! Regardless, I have gone ahead and sent the motor to Neu myself to get the final word. I just want to get it over and done with!!!

AND GET MY CAR RUNNING!!!!!!

killajb · 12.13.2008, 02:23 PM

Well, a thousand words or so have already been spewed back and forth regarding the NEU motor. As mentioned earlier in this thread, I was the recipient of a used motor that didn't come as described. Luckily, the sender accepted it back and refunded my money. But... IMO, if you buy a motor used NEU, Lehner, Phase Plasma or whatever, assume it's been through the ringer and expect the worse. I think it's easier to just deal with NEU and the repair costs and call it a lesson learned. Let's keep up the positive info in these forums regardless of who started what.

Oh, and I'm going to test out my just-finished Muggy at Mills Pond park today. Give me a buzz if you wanna get some runs in with that big ole Medusa ya just got!

speedracer1129 · 12.13.2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by killajb

Well, a thousand words or so have already been spewed back and forth regarding the NEU motor. As mentioned earlier in this thread, I was the recipient of a used motor that didn't come as described. Luckily, the sender accepted it back and refunded my money. But... IMO, if you buy a motor used NEU, Lehner, Phase Plasma or whatever, assume it's been through the ringer and expect the worse. I think it's easier to just deal with NEU and the repair costs and call it a lesson learned. Let's keep up the positive info in these forums regardless of who started what.

Oh, and I'm going to test out my just-finished Muggy at Mills Pond park today. Give me a buzz if you wanna get some runs in with that big ole Medusa ya just got!

killajb,

That is pretty much the route I have taken!! Now, do you mean Mills Pond, Ft. Lauderdale?? I am in Miami if so!! However, I do not think the Medusa on 10S with foams will do so good on the track....