MaxAmps Race Edition Lipos

Originally Posted by thzero

Facts, you mean like a 6500mah battery that only can do 5000mah? My bad...

Keep in mind that video was produced by 1 man. A man who accepts advertising on his site from the makers of Ace Batteries. (Put 2 and 2 together here) So I will let you use your own brain, instead of letting everyone else think for you. If all our 6500 packs were really only 5000mah packs we wouldn't still be in business, people would be calling and complaining and people would be posting negatively all over the internet. We never received any complaints about those cells being underrated. In fact we have numerous people that report putting 6700 or even 6800 in those cells. We sell 5450 capacity packs and the graph that he shows in his video, legit or not looks more like our 5450 cells. Have a great day.

Brandon

[thzero]

And on the flip side, you have MaxAmps that advertises all over the place and pays rc people to proclaim how great their overpriced batteries are, with absolutely NO OBJECTIVE TESTS EVEN ATTEMPTED.

Sorry, I'll believe a guy that is well known in the community (which is NOT the industry, totally different segments) over a bunch of mouthpieces.

You make these claims, but never once have anyone really seen any objective tests of them to back up the claims. Just like the graphs you said you'd provide (which really wouldn't be all that objective, and would be circumspect to begin with). So if you want to talk FACTS, then provide them, or shut up. At least one guy stuck his neck out and tried to be through and objective about it. He's shown something, you and MaxAmps haven't shown jack (and no, starting a car or a dragster is not a viable experiment or test).

I would be more than happy about supporting American based rc companies (all my electronics are Castle) but you have to supply a quality product at a fair price. You don't have a quality product, you have an overblown product, at an overblown price that gets marketed and hyped like no one else.

"complaining and people would be posting negatively all over the internet" - Brandon. THEY ARE. You must have blinders on or something. People bitch about MaxAmps on every rc forum I've ever been on.

You don't hear the same crap about ThunderPower batteries, do you? [They are based in Las Vegas (http://thunderpowerrc.com/html/aboutus.html) so it's an apples to apples comparison] You don't. Why? Because they've been proven for years; yes they are more expensive than the Chinese companies, but they have a well deserved rep.

About the only thing I can say positive (and I have a few MaxAmps batteries; purchased when I was a newb) about MaxAmps is the choice of plug and balance adapters is nice. But its not worth the price of admission.

P.S. Just so we are prefectly clear; I am not a cheap ass by any stretch of the imagination. I am prefectly willing to buy quality stuff, but it also must be at a fair price for the quality, not an over inflated price.

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

Keep in mind that video was produced by 1 man. A man who accepts advertising on his site from the makers of Ace Batteries. (Put 2 and 2 together here) So I will let you use your own brain, instead of letting everyone else think for you. If all our 6500 packs were really only 5000mah packs we wouldn't still be in business, people would be calling and complaining and people would be posting negatively all over the internet. We never received any complaints about those cells being underrated. In fact we have numerous people that report putting 6700 or even 6800 in those cells. We sell 5450 capacity packs and the graph that he shows in his video, legit or not looks more like our 5450 cells. Have a great day.

Brandon

[JoFreak]

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

Keep in mind that video was produced by 1 man. A man who accepts advertising on his site from the makers of Ace Batteries. (Put 2 and 2 together here)

That's what Jerry allready did pointing out your relations to rctech and so on.

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

So I will let you use your own brain, instead of letting everyone else think for you.

Jang is only one man, as you just pointed out and now he's everyone?

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

If all our 6500 packs were really only 5000mah packs we wouldn't still be in business, people would be calling and complaining...

If my pack would puff on the first run, capacity would be the least of my worries too

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

...and people would be posting negatively all over the internet.

That's what they do actually. But since you sponsor several of the RC related parts of "the internet" those negative posts get deleted.

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

We never received any complaints about those cells being underrated. In fact we have numerous people that report putting 6700 or even 6800 in those cells.

We even had one of those here on RCM. He ran 2 different packs with the same load and your pack took a considerable amount more on the charger.
Turned out your pack balanced so bad, all the extra mAhs went right out through the balancer as soon as they got into the pack.

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

We sell 5450 capacity packs and the graph that he shows in his video, legit or not looks more like our 5450 cells.

Aparantly you do. You sell 5450mAh packs, with stickers on them that say 6500mAh. Btw: less than 5000mAh charged into a pack that is labeled as 5450 is still poor. Not as poor as 5000 into a 6500 pack, but still...

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

Have a great day.

Brandon

You too Brandon, nice of you to pass by and make us laugh

[thzero]

Oh this ticked me off too. You don't want someone else to tell me whats what, you want me to believe you otherwise why bother posting.

Sorry Brandon, I don't have time to do everything and perform every test imagineable. However, there are some folks running around (that don't work at MaxAmps) that do know what they are doing and talking about. I can get information from them and other sources and damn well use my own brain to make decisions.

And what my brain tells me is that MaxAmps is full of it, and I'd much rather go buy batteries from Hong Kong because they are cheap. I can buy a lot of these in comparison to one junky MaxAmps, and they may not been any better, but so what if they go bad. If I am looking for race batteries, I'll head towards ThunderPower or Hyperion (yes I know they are out of Korea).

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

So I will let you use your own brain, instead of letting everyone else think for you.

[feistyacorn]

Guys… Please don’t piss off MaxAmps, or else they will stop selling to us and we will have to buy Hyperion, Thunder Power, or Hobby King LiPos! Now think of how bad that would be!



Also, I don’t want to think for myself. Can we please see a LiPo start a moped now? Please!!!!

[thzero]

Actually I've swapped over to Sky from HobbyPartz for my bashing batteries. Might not be quite as good as the Turnigies, but I can usual get them in the size (cells, mah and C ratings) I want with fast turn around.

Originally Posted by feistyacorn

Guys… Please don’t piss off MaxAmps, or else they will stop selling to us and we will have to buy Hyperion, Thunder Power, or Hobby King LiPos! Now think of how bad that would be!

[JERRY2KONE]

After seeing that video you are still not getting it. Coming on any of these R/C sites with anger and BS about how great Maxamps are is not going to solve your problem. Your statement about not seeing/hearing anyone else complaining about your cells is really interesting considering whats been posted in here. Its painfully obvious that your sponsoring venues are blocking anything bad from remaining posted in an attempt to make it look as if there are none. Unfortunately for you we do check these sites every single day and we see them before the sites have a chance to delete them.

All that said after what? a year of people asking you to show some kind of scientific evidence that your cells can not only do what you say they can (TRUE 150C), but can actually handle any level of direct comparison to competitors cells that sell for much less. Why does it take a house to fall on your head for you to show up or shut up. The web has been full of complaints about Maxamps cells and the fact that when they did complain to your company that they recieved the cold shoulder and at best were offered reduced pricing for a replaement instead of a free swap for a failed pack due to swollen cells or outright failure of the pack when it was still well within its warranty cycle. The best thing you guys have done so far was dropping making people pay for a warranty that should have been offered for free to show your belief in your product from the very begining. I mean what do you guys think that customers are just going to keep taking excuses and failures without speaking out? If you want to remain in this business than you have to hold up a good reputation by supporting your customers the way that CC has over the last few years. If your product fails then replace it. Check it for abuse or poor setup failures, and if you can not prove that it was a user error, then stop making excuses and stand up to the poor quality of that item. I have read time after time about bad connections (cold solder joints), and puffed packs right out of the package, and your employees refusing to do the right thing. That is why Maxamps is getting a bad rep out here. This is not just one man bashing your company, it is a huge number of people who are tired of hearing your hype and not seeing any evidence that you have changed your ways. So now what are you going to do about it?????