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06.27.2011, 06:58 AM

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I have a ROAR rep., puppet whatever one likes to call these technology enders fools (hope that made sense, but in Portuguese it did ) saying 4 and 6 pole motors are ROAR legal. It's in RCTech's forum and I also have a screen shot of the post. It seems to me if one wants to make a 540 or 550 sized motor with a 4, 6 or 8 pole rotors and a stator with more then 12 slots will basically only have the bashers for support, but this also proves how ROAR only makes the rules to help a few companies and they will keep our technology from getting better.
I don't think ROAR rules keep technology from getting better.

Look at the 1410 and 1406 motors.

In fact, from my understanding, we have this awesome 1410 motor partly because of ROAR rules: Castle wanting to show the world what you can do with good motor design within those limited parameters set forth in the ROAR rules.
   
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06.27.2011, 08:02 AM

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I don't think ROAR rules keep technology from getting better.

Look at the 1410 and 1406 motors.

In fact, from my understanding, we have this awesome 1410 motor partly because of ROAR rules: Castle wanting to show the world what you can do with good motor design within those limited parameters set forth in the ROAR rules.
To me racing should be all about new products that can improve the hobby and having too many rules and regulations won't allow new the new products to be used in sectioned races. Remember the wonderful days of full scale race cars? Well, I do and I miss it and with all the rules and regulations, it seems full scale racing has taking a few steps backwards in power and speed.

Look at how long it took ROAR to allow people to use the Neu/Castle motors. Have you been following the boost, turbo, timing advance and (I don't know if I missed anything else) discussions? If I have a ESC that can make a 17.5 motor act like a modified motor, crap I should be allowed to use it. Let the other manufacturers figure out how they can do the same or better. That's how technology moves forward.

Imagine if the PC market had rules and regulations. This would be the perfect saying:

Hey sectioning body people, the Intel CPU is blazing fast and our best AMD CPU is 20X slower. Tell Intel to make their CPU slower and if they don't ban the from using it until we catch up. (Add different ones if you guys want to spark some laughs in this thread ).
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06.27.2011, 09:31 AM

Different people want racing to be about differnet things.

Some people want it to be about ever improving technology. They want the "go faster" to come from some one/some thing other than themselves. Faster, more powerful motors, more cells in series for higher speeds, bigger, stickier tires, better aerodynamics, etc, etc, etc. The corrolary to this is continuous and ever increasing expenditures.

But not everyone wants ever increasing expenditures to go along with the new gizmo of the week.

There are people want racing to be be about driving and the improvements that come from within (like a better understanding of car setup or tuning to improve performance by making what they have work better). These people don't want to spend money to go faster (at least not to the extent of the other camp). They want everyone's car to be the same speed so racing is a test of your skill, not your wallet. They encourage rules that limit the impact technology has on making cars faster. ("Protect your investment", approximately what Steve Pond said.)

"Never the twain shall meet."

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06.27.2011, 11:17 AM

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Look at how long it took ROAR to allow people to use the Neu/Castle motors. Have you been following the boost, turbo, timing advance and (I don't know if I missed anything else) discussions? If I have a ESC that can make a 17.5 motor act like a modified motor, crap I should be allowed to use it. Let the other manufacturers figure out how they can do the same or better. That's how technology moves forward.
Patrick del Castillo layed the smack down on this issue(12 post down) when Ernie Provetti posted about this on RCCA blog

Ernie Provetti RCCA blog
   
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