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04.02.2007, 08:50 PM

Hey MaXXler, glad you could be part of this. I would like to see pics of the new project once you get to it. Let me know any advice if you have any. Also, I wasnt a huge fan of the razorback. I was waiting for the G3 to come out but it just doesnt look like it is going to makes it's way out.


I need to still order the XB8 steering assembly, but I am just going to CAD with the stock Ofna 9.5 Suspension.
   
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04.03.2007, 11:10 AM

Good job so far. When you render it, though, make sure to click perspective on. It does wonders. I'm looking forward to seeing the suspension and steering modelled.


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04.06.2007, 12:15 PM

Before I go anywhere from here, I need a solution to a problem. A member from another forum brought up an issue about the motor braking with a center diff will only give breaking to the wheels with the least amount of traction and usually spin out the buggy. I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a fix to this problem without running mechanical brakes?
   
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04.06.2007, 12:39 PM

Your only options are:

A. Mechanical brakes, front, rear, or front/rear
B. Run a one-way in the front so only the rear have brakes
C. Don't believe him

I wouldn't think it to be a big deal. 90% of conversions use the motor brakes and I have yet to here somebody say something to that effect. Infact, I have a LSP that uses motor brakes and it doesn't...It stops on a dime however...
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04.06.2007, 01:22 PM

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Thanks squee, I think I will just give it a try, and if there are problems to worry about them later.

I am messing around with the idea of widening the chassis to allow the center diff with a 46t Kyosho plastic spur to fit between the lipolys packs allowing me to move the diff to the center more for a better balanced vehicle. I also threw in a render of the motor slightly off to the side of the diff, this would drop the COG, but I am wondering if the motor heat will transfere to the lipolys packs this way even if I have my battery hold downs/heatsinks on?




   
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04.06.2007, 02:12 PM

There shouldn't be any problems with the motor right over the battery. Personally, the motor shouldn't get hot enough to worry about anyway...Are you going for a buggy length wheelbase?
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04.06.2007, 08:01 PM

If there were horrible braking problems as this person suggested then it would be a big topic. He doesn't know what he is talking about... obviously he's just speculating.

As I have said before on this topic, I have no problems with "electric" brakes. It is different than "nitro" brakes and there are disadvantages, but it's not a big deal. You can't use the brake to help the car rotate like with mech front/rear bias brakes. But there is no spin-out problems... the only bad thing with motor brake is that the front tends to push when hard on the brakes.

So you may have to brake a bit earlier and roll the corner or be on power through the turn, compared to a nitro.


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04.06.2007, 11:38 PM

I am going for buggy wheelbase. With this new chassis layout, I am able to move the lipolys back even further which is giving me more room for the stearing assembly from the XB8.
   
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04.07.2007, 11:22 PM

What about putting the motor in the center down on the chassis with the center diff above the motor. That would lower the COG. I had thought of that when I was laying mine out. I was able to keep everything down on the chassis with a different design. I used only one battery though. It could be off to the side and above one of the batteries. The drive shaft angles should work fine. I had mine mocked up like that and it looked like it would work all right.


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04.08.2007, 02:29 AM

that just looks plain SICK! i really want one now lol darn u! but id say for brakes, i have a mini inferno and it has a center diff with gears and nothing more, so no oil or anything and when i jam the gas it unloads, but jam the brakes and all 4 wheels would be stopping... id think the same here, past that just use heavier wt oil if it does happen lol.....but what other cars could u do this for? id want a truggy like this, lol every time i look at it im like I NEED THAT!
   
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04.08.2007, 03:47 PM

Changing up the design for a truggy application would be very easy.

Silentmonster, I really dont think that setup would work in my situation.

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04.09.2007, 01:58 AM

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Changing up the design for a truggy application would be very easy.

Silentmonster, I really dont think that setup would work in my situation.

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I should have a few new renderings in a little while.

id like to use losi 8ght t stuff....if u could make that all work that would be sick! but im nt asking for anything now lol, looks very pricey to machine all that:eek:
   
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04.09.2007, 11:45 AM

I would never choose the 8T suspension. They don't handle as well as alot of truggies, mostly because there very "twitchy" from what I have heard, but they say if you get use to it (not easy), you can be pretty fast with it. Anywho, I would go with the Mugen MBX5T suspension.
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04.09.2007, 12:04 PM

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I would never choose the 8T suspension. They don't handle as well as alot of truggies, mostly because there very "twitchy" from what I have heard, but they say if you get use to it (not easy), you can be pretty fast with it. Anywho, I would go with the Mugen MBX5T suspension.

well personally, ur the only person that has said that... all the ppl i know have 8ghts and race at there tracks, and the fast truggies are the 8ght t.... i would use it i like it and thats what matters
   
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04.09.2007, 12:11 PM

Like I said, I have heard from numberous people that they prefer the Mugens because the 8T is twitchy, or "very responsive." I'm just saying, the Mugen is a better handling truggy.
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