8-T Option Team BCP

[jayjay283]

looks real nice, just hope it doesnt have the infamous Fioroni pricetag to go with it

[othello]

@Njord
Since you have driven both the brushless und nitro 8t: Did you achieve better lap times with the brushless version? Wich motor kv version did you choose with 6s lipo?

[Njord]

Originally Posted by stum

Could you make the diff bracket have a joint from the rest of the battery bracket to make for easier diff repair/work ? Just a thought..

How about a photo w/o batteries (someone else also mentioned)
How about a shot of that rx box

Thanks!!

Here is a link to my local track (one of them) that I race at - this is a pro-series track as well.
Sorry this is me racing my erevo though, not the 8t, and it was one of my first real races. I really just got into racing this year as I had no idea where a track was near me so I was pretty ecstatic to learn of this one. Anyway I have improved dramatically from this vid but it's still not bad.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP4l4QEMB2Y

Nice track. I race at the NBR track in Mol (Belgium). It is a technical astroturf track: http://www.nbr-rc.com/. Also at the astroturf of Mach-One (Netherlands, site is under construction) which is technical but also with some real speed parts. Both are new tracks, build up this year. The track of Mach-One is in fact the longest astroturf track in europe ca 360 meters ...
Just keep making rounds, drive drive and drive.. is what makes one improve most quickly.

Vittorio has made a change to the battery bracket, is for extra quick-change of lipo's during a race. I am not allowed to show the pictures of that smart solution of the KISS type (Keep It Simple & Stupid). Working on the center diff is easier than it might look. Taking out the battery plate is in fact a mather of loosen 3 extra scews. By that you have everything free to work on what is a big advantage to the nitro versions'. The battery plate for the 8ight is the same as for the 8ight-t. At the 8igth it is not possible to use the normal rear brace because of the narrow chassis. For the 8ight-t is possible to mount the battery plated like they are made for the RC8 / RC8T and others. Sunday I hope to post the RC8 OT BCP at the buggy section. That will give an idea. I do not think that it will make work easier.

I am working on the pics. I will use a 8-t that is in building progress at the moment to give a clear view. The 8ight-t on the pictures is at this moment at a friend of me. He is training for a indoor contest next week that I can not join because I have to go to Shanghai till christmas for my work (I am 2 weeks of each 6 in Shanghai and starting april also 1 week of each in the US, Atlanta my 8ight brushless always joins me..).

@Othello
I used both the Tekno neu 3D 1360 kv on 6s and 2.5D 1700 kv on the 8-t. I prefer the 3D on 6s. 2.5D should run best with 5s lipo's I think. It is overpowered on our technical tracks. I have somewhat better laptimes with the brushless than the nitro (GRP .21 tuned). Acceleration and top is higher.. limited are however my driving skills. With the 8ight i gain more because i can take the corners some what faster without loosing control. A topdriver should gain more than I do. In january we will know. 27 and 28 december there is a indoor and 3 OT BCP 8t's, 1 rc8t and 1 RC8 or 8ight are allowed to to join the race (rest is nitro...). 2 drivers are of a toplevel so this should give a good idea about the performance.

@JayJay: It will be for sure be more expensive than many other parts on the US market. The high quality standard (al 7076 alu) does have it's costs. Prime market for Fioroni is not the entry driver or just fun basher but te high demanding racer. Also the euro at this moment is strong compared to the dollar and for that europe is quit expensive compared to the US. Might be different in the near future because the dollar is crawling slowly to the 1:1 level. In summer it was $1,60 for €1, now it is ca $1,30 for €1. Three/four years ago it was $0,90 for €1... I expect a retail price in Europe of ca € 175-. Take in consideration some import fee's....

[Ryu James]

Njord,
very nice conversion. must be great to work closely with Fioroni. I gotta tell you though. I have bought a lot of Fioroni parts for my buggies/truggies and think they are the best hop-up parts available but i have never seen anyone else with them. They are way too expensive here in the states. For example, the hubs on the 8t are $105 US when the hubs of very similar quality can be purchased for $25-50 from every competitor. I would love to see that conversion in the states but it would never sell if it has the Fioroni prices - which it will cuz it has to be imported from Italy.

also, i love that astro-turf track. i recently started and energy drink company call Fighting Cock Energy Drink http://www.fightingcockenergy.com/ and if it should do well i hope to build a world class, astro-turf rc track here in the states. i have always wanted to build a turf track. they dont exist here and in fact i never even knew they existed. i just always go drive my truggies at the golf courses and i love driving on the short grass cuz its clean, fast, and soft on the truck. turf would be the same. i dont think our US tracks compare to yours. you mentioned that new one to be 360 meters. Our largest US track is the Farm and it is 250 ft x 250 ft ( 85 meters x 85 meters ).

would love to see more pics of more Fioroni conversions.

[Njord]

Originally Posted by Ryu James

Njord,
very nice conversion. must be great to work closely with Fioroni. I gotta tell you though. I have bought a lot of Fioroni parts for my buggies/truggies and think they are the best hop-up parts available but i have never seen anyone else with them. They are way too expensive here in the states. For example, the hubs on the 8t are $105 US when the hubs of very similar quality can be purchased for $25-50 from every competitor. I would love to see that conversion in the states but it would never sell if it has the Fioroni prices - which it will cuz it has to be imported from Italy.

also, i love that astro-turf track. i recently started and energy drink company call Fighting Cock Energy Drink http://www.fightingcockenergy.com/ and if it should do well i hope to build a world class, astro-turf rc track here in the states. i have always wanted to build a turf track. they dont exist here and in fact i never even knew they existed. i just always go drive my truggies at the golf courses and i love driving on the short grass cuz its clean, fast, and soft on the truck. turf would be the same. i dont think our US tracks compare to yours. you mentioned that new one to be 360 meters. Our largest US track is the Farm and it is 250 ft x 250 ft ( 85 meters x 85 meters ).

would love to see more pics of more Fioroni conversions.

To learn, see and work with Vittorio Moroni (is the estabishler and owner of Fioroni and the man behind) is indeed really great and inspiring. As non pro drivers we learn a lot from him and by that we made a big progress by making the right setups for the different tracks we drive on.

Comparing consumer prices of OT parts in the US with Europe I expect that the conversion sets will have a price somewhere around $ 230,-. Might be higher than other conversions that are on the maret but by this you also get a OT hardcoated 7076 chassis. On my nitro I have a flexchassis of Fioroni. Also same quality and hardcoated. Running it now half a year I can only conclude that the chassis is worth its extra money. It is far more durable than the original Losi chassis. Would it become higher than that some people in between are making extra $ compared to margins on other products and it would be most interesting to buy as consumer directly in Europe.
I have intensive business contacts in the US. In fact I work (freelance) for US based companies in Europe, China and the US. By that I know how to world turns around and in which direction to ship .. More pictures of conversions will be posted at the moment I am home for christmas. At the moment I stay in Shanghai.

A friend of my has put a few vids on youtube from OT-BCP's running during a bigscale indoor sunday. 2 of them are the 8-T. 1 is of a RC8 OT BCP. The driver is a friend of me. He just switched over from bigscale to 1:8. It was his first time driving a 1:8 and he both set the best tracktimes and won his first race, although improvised small race he nuked the nitro'.s

From Vittorio I received an email that he has run a 8-T, powered by a 1515 3D on 10 s. He was really excited abouth the extreme performance. Half a year ago he did not really know that a 1:8 could drive on elektro..

Here the links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4k5oJdOGiM (8-T part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lGU55N4914 (8-T part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jebaN692Nak (RC8)

[Ryu James]

Njord,
the videos are great. looks like a real performer. I know that Fioroni builds top quality stuff and i agree that you get what you pay for. is their a site where these conversions can be purchased?
do you have any more pics of the RC8t conversion?

i just finished my own custom RC8T conversion recently. here are a bunch of pics.
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17104

i also have a done tekno conversion on the Losi 8 and 8t and have really liked theirs. their conversion also comes with hard anodized 7075 t6 aluminum chassis like yours. all the other conversions out there come with a small alum. motor mount and thats it but sell for the same price. Tekno is now selling their kits for only $129 or less. they used to be $199. as more and more technology comes out in the world of brushless conversions the prices will continue to go down. here is teknos new RC8T/SC8 conversion. not as nice as mine but still nice nonetheless.
http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=3846